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 On Wed, 5 Nov 2025 08:54:22 +0000, The Todal  
 wrote: 
  
 >On 05/11/2025 07:04, Martin Harran wrote: 
 >> On Tue, 4 Nov 2025 18:15:18 +0000, JNugent  wrote: 
 >> 
 >>> On 04/11/2025 04:08 pm, Martin Harran wrote: 
 >>> 
 >>>> JNugent  wrote: 
 >>>>> On 04/11/2025 10:40 am, Martin Harran wrote: 
 >>>>>> The Todal  wrote: 
 >>>> 
 >>>>>> [...] 
 >>>> 
 >>>>>>> what was Andrew's especially heinous action? Seemingly, continuing 
 his 
 >>>>>>> friendship with a convicted sex predator. 
 >>>> 
 >>>>>> *continuing* seems the most significant part of this. 
 >>>> 
 >>>>> I don't see why any of us should cast off friends who fall foul either 
 >>>>> of the law or of public opinion. 
 >>>> 
 >>>> As a Christian, I certainly believe in forgiving those who do wrong 
 >>>> provided that they face up to their wrongs and commit themselves to 
 >>>> stopping the behaviour. Feel free to point out where Epstein showed 
 >>>> any of that. 
 >>> 
 >>> Who said anything about forgiveness? 
 >>> 
 >>> It's about friendship and compassion. Forgiveness lies right outside 
 those. 
 >> 
 >> On what basis do you think Andrew's continuing relationship with 
 >> Epstein was about friendship and compassion? 
 > 
 >Andrew and Fergie probably had in mind gratitude for favours previously 
 >rendered, maybe hope that the good times might continue one day. I think 
 >they would have done well to have taken advice from public relations 
 >consultants. This wasn't just yet another billionnaire chum being fined 
 >for tax evasion. 
 > 
 >> 
 >>> 
 >>> Is friendship a purely transactional arrangement for you? 
 >>> 
 >>> What if it were your brother? 
 >>> 
 >>> Would it still be "Never darken my door again; you are dead to me"? 
 >>> 
 >>> Would Christ have done that, d'you think? 
 >>> 
 >>> "Let he who is without sin...". 
 >> 
 >> Yet again I am amused at how people who have no regard for the Bible 
 >> seem to think they are expert on it. 
 >> 
 > 
 >I am amused at how well known words and phrases from the Bible 
 >inevitably have very different meanings depending on whether the speaker 
 >is a priest or a mere peasant. 
  
 Those who take the Bible seriously generally don't base their 
 understanding on selective quotes. 
  
 > 
 >The devil can cite scripture for his purpose. (The "devil" in this 
 >context being Shylock, the Jew) 
 > 
 > 
  
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