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  Msg # 12768 of 12811 on ZZUK4448, Thursday 11-05-25, 12:57  
  From: MARTIN HARRAN  
  To: JNUGENT  
  Subj: Re: The Andrew previously known as Princ  
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 On Wed, 5 Nov 2025 12:05:31 +0000, JNugent  wrote: 
  
 >On 05/11/2025 07:04 am, Martin Harran wrote: 
 > 
 >> JNugent  wrote: 
 >>> Martin Harran wrote: 
 >>>> JNugent  wrote: 
 >>>>> Martin Harran wrote: 
 >>>>>> The Todal  wrote: 
 >> 
 >>>>>> [...] 
 >> 
 >>>>>>> what was Andrew's especially heinous action? Seemingly, continuing 
 his 
 >>>>>>> friendship with a convicted sex predator. 
 >> 
 >>>>>> *continuing* seems the most significant part of this. 
 >> 
 >>>>> I don't see why any of us should cast off friends who fall foul either 
 >>>>> of the law or of public opinion. 
 >> 
 >>>> As a Christian, I certainly believe in forgiving those who do wrong 
 >>>> provided that they face up to their wrongs and commit themselves to 
 >>>> stopping the behaviour. Feel free to point out where Epstein showed 
 >>>> any of that. 
 >> 
 >>> Who said anything about forgiveness? 
 >>> It's about friendship and compassion. Forgiveness lies right outside 
 those. 
 >> 
 >> On what basis do you think Andrew's continuing relationship with 
 >> Epstein was about friendship and compassion? 
 > 
 >I was not discussing a particular case. 
 > 
 >I am talking about a principle. 
  
 You seemed to be applying that principle to the Epstein case, are you 
 now saying you aren't seeking to so apply it? 
  
 >> 
 >>> Is friendship a purely transactional arrangement for you? 
 >>> What if it were your brother? 
 >>> Would it still be "Never darken my door again; you are dead to me"? 
 >>> Would Christ have done that, d'you think? 
 >>> "Let he who is without sin...". 
 >> 
 >> Yet again I am amused at how people who have no regard for the Bible 
 >> seem to think they are expert on it. 
 > 
 >What's that supposed to mean? 
 > 
 >Are you denying that the quotation is absolutely relevant to what is 
 >being discussed? 
  
 Selective Bible quotations are rarely meaningful on their own and are 
 mostly resorted to by those who have no regard for the Bible, thinking 
 that it somehow make them look clever. 
  
 > 
 >Or that I have it all wrong? 
  
 I suspect you get very little right about the Bible. 
  
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