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  Msg # 12760 of 12811 on ZZUK4448, Thursday 11-05-25, 11:47  
  From: JNUGENT  
  To: MARTIN HARRAN  
  Subj: Re: Fixed Term Lease contracts for peppe  
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 On 04/11/2025 10:13 pm, Martin Harran wrote: 
 > On Tue, 4 Nov 2025 19:32:30 +0000, The Todal  
 > wrote: 
 > 
 >> On 04/11/2025 19:08, Martin Harran wrote: 
 >>> On Sat, 1 Nov 2025 15:15:13 +0000, JNugent  wrote: 
 >>> 
 >>>> On 31/10/2025 02:05 pm, The Todal wrote: 
 >>>>> On 31/10/2025 12:22, Roger Hayter wrote: 
 >>>>>> On 31 Oct 2025 at 11:51:26 GMT, "The Todal"  
 wrote: 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>>> On 31/10/2025 10:22, Martin Brown wrote: 
 >>>>>>>> In the light of recent events involving the residence of the Andrew 
 >>>>>>>> formerly known as a prince I have a question about voiding his 
 lease. 
 >>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>> Our village hall is also on a 25 year lease with a peppercorn rent 
 >>>>>>>> (although the peppercorn is a bit bigger at £35 p.a. to cover admin 
 >>>>>>>> costs). The terms of the lease appear to state that provided that we 
 >>>>>>>> look after and maintain the building and don't use it for illegal 
 >>>>>>>> purposes or cause a public nuisance the owner grants us a long fixed 
 >>>>>>>> term of 25 years (previous ones were 50 years each). 
 >>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>> If we fail to keep it in tenantable condition then the landlord has 
 the 
 >>>>>>>> right to engage contractors to sort it out and charge that to us. 
 >>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>> However, as far as I can see unless we engaged in criminal 
 activities 
 >>>>>>>> *on* the premises or caused a serious public nuisance to our 
 neighbours 
 >>>>>>>> (also their tenants) it is ours to use for the full 25 year lease. 
 >>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>> What clause have I missed that allows it to be voided by the 
 landlord? 
 >>>>>>>> IANAL so I can't rule out having missed some clever form of words. 
 >>>>>>>> I had to have "tenantable condition" explained to me by our 
 solicitors. 
 >>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>> So my main question is: how has the King forced his brother out of 
 what 
 >>>>>>>> is very probably a water tight fixed term lease on Royal Lodge? 
 >>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>> Or is that a prerogative of being an absolute monarch? 
 >>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>> Is Andrew's lease in the public domain? 
 >>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>> It would be absolutely wonderful if Andrew sued the King for breach 
 of 
 >>>>>>> contract and for a declaration that his lease is valid and cannot be 
 >>>>>>> terminated without his consent. 
 >>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>> With all the real problems faced by our nation and by the world I 
 find 
 >>>>>>> it incredible that the media are so preoccupied with the humiliation 
 of 
 >>>>>>> Andrew and the King's supposedly sensible and courageous decision to 
 >>>>>>> deprive Andrew of his title and hereditary honours. Just in time to 
 >>>>>>> forestall any decision in the House of Commons which might have given 
 >>>>>>> the impression that Charles is on the back foot, unable to make 
 >>>>>>> decisions about his family. 
 >>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>> There is really nothing less important than Andrew losing the title 
 of 
 >>>>>>> Prince (the artist formerly known as Prince) and losing his big 
 house. 
 >>>>>>> It's a soap opera to distract the plebs from more important issues. 
 >>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>> If and when Andrew commits suicide because of the public disgrace, 
 what 
 >>>>>>> will be the press and public reaction then?  Will he become the 
 Prince 
 >>>>>>> of Hearts and will acres of bouquets be laid in the grounds of 
 >>>>>>> Sandringham? Or will the verdict be "good riddance, if I'd had my way 
 >>>>>>> he'd have had his head chopped off".  So perish all royal princes 
 who 
 >>>>>>> fuck prostitutes and keep undesirable company with unscrupulous rich 
 >>>>>>> playboys. Is it now time for someone to deprive Trump of the title of 
 >>>>>>> President and move him out of the White House? 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>> I thought we had come to realise that vulnerable young women 
 >>>>>> trafficked and 
 >>>>>> sexually exploited were not primarily "prostitutes" so much as 
 >>>>>> victims? Or 
 >>>>>> does this analysis only apply when the exploiters are Pakistanis? 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>> You make a valid point. 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>> Conversely, it is no longer fashionable to see prostitutes as 
 inevitably 
 >>>>> the victims of coercion, threatened with violence by pimps, longing to 
 >>>>> be rescued from their plight as fallen women and rehabilitated into a 
 >>>>> more worthy way of making a living. Objects of pity. William Ewart 
 >>>>> Gladstone used to wander the streets and befriend prostitutes and pray 
 >>>>> with them in the hope that they would see the error of their ways and 
 >>>>> return to a more respectable way of life, perhaps as housemaids or 
 cooks. 
  
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