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  Msg # 12757 of 12811 on ZZUK4448, Thursday 11-05-25, 11:44  
  From: JNUGENT  
  To: THE TODAL  
  Subj: Re: Fixed Term Lease contracts for peppe  
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 On 04/11/2025 07:32 pm, The Todal wrote: 
 > On 04/11/2025 19:08, Martin Harran wrote: 
 >> On Sat, 1 Nov 2025 15:15:13 +0000, JNugent  wrote: 
 >> 
 >>> On 31/10/2025 02:05 pm, The Todal wrote: 
 >>>> On 31/10/2025 12:22, Roger Hayter wrote: 
 >>>>> On 31 Oct 2025 at 11:51:26 GMT, "The Todal"  
 >>>>> wrote: 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>>> On 31/10/2025 10:22, Martin Brown wrote: 
 >>>>>>> In the light of recent events involving the residence of the Andrew 
 >>>>>>> formerly known as a prince I have a question about voiding his 
 >>>>>>> lease. 
 >>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>> Our village hall is also on a 25 year lease with a peppercorn rent 
 >>>>>>> (although the peppercorn is a bit bigger at £35 p.a. to cover admin 
 >>>>>>> costs). The terms of the lease appear to state that provided that we 
 >>>>>>> look after and maintain the building and don't use it for illegal 
 >>>>>>> purposes or cause a public nuisance the owner grants us a long fixed 
 >>>>>>> term of 25 years (previous ones were 50 years each). 
 >>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>> If we fail to keep it in tenantable condition then the landlord 
 >>>>>>> has the 
 >>>>>>> right to engage contractors to sort it out and charge that to us. 
 >>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>> However, as far as I can see unless we engaged in criminal 
 >>>>>>> activities 
 >>>>>>> *on* the premises or caused a serious public nuisance to our 
 >>>>>>> neighbours 
 >>>>>>> (also their tenants) it is ours to use for the full 25 year lease. 
 >>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>> What clause have I missed that allows it to be voided by the 
 >>>>>>> landlord? 
 >>>>>>> IANAL so I can't rule out having missed some clever form of words. 
 >>>>>>> I had to have "tenantable condition" explained to me by our 
 >>>>>>> solicitors. 
 >>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>> So my main question is: how has the King forced his brother out 
 >>>>>>> of what 
 >>>>>>> is very probably a water tight fixed term lease on Royal Lodge? 
 >>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>> Or is that a prerogative of being an absolute monarch? 
 >>>>>>> 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>> Is Andrew's lease in the public domain? 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>> It would be absolutely wonderful if Andrew sued the King for 
 >>>>>> breach of 
 >>>>>> contract and for a declaration that his lease is valid and cannot be 
 >>>>>> terminated without his consent. 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>> With all the real problems faced by our nation and by the world I 
 >>>>>> find 
 >>>>>> it incredible that the media are so preoccupied with the 
 >>>>>> humiliation of 
 >>>>>> Andrew and the King's supposedly sensible and courageous decision to 
 >>>>>> deprive Andrew of his title and hereditary honours. Just in time to 
 >>>>>> forestall any decision in the House of Commons which might have given 
 >>>>>> the impression that Charles is on the back foot, unable to make 
 >>>>>> decisions about his family. 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>> There is really nothing less important than Andrew losing the 
 >>>>>> title of 
 >>>>>> Prince (the artist formerly known as Prince) and losing his big 
 >>>>>> house. 
 >>>>>> It's a soap opera to distract the plebs from more important issues. 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>> If and when Andrew commits suicide because of the public disgrace, 
 >>>>>> what 
 >>>>>> will be the press and public reaction then?  Will he become the 
 >>>>>> Prince 
 >>>>>> of Hearts and will acres of bouquets be laid in the grounds of 
 >>>>>> Sandringham? Or will the verdict be "good riddance, if I'd had my way 
 >>>>>> he'd have had his head chopped off".  So perish all royal princes who 
 >>>>>> fuck prostitutes and keep undesirable company with unscrupulous rich 
 >>>>>> playboys. Is it now time for someone to deprive Trump of the title of 
 >>>>>> President and move him out of the White House? 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>> I thought we had come to realise that vulnerable young women 
 >>>>> trafficked and 
 >>>>> sexually exploited were not primarily "prostitutes" so much as 
 >>>>> victims? Or 
 >>>>> does this analysis only apply when the exploiters are Pakistanis? 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>> 
 >>>> 
 >>>> You make a valid point. 
 >>>> 
 >>>> Conversely, it is no longer fashionable to see prostitutes as 
 >>>> inevitably 
 >>>> the victims of coercion, threatened with violence by pimps, longing to 
 >>>> be rescued from their plight as fallen women and rehabilitated into a 
 >>>> more worthy way of making a living. Objects of pity. William Ewart 
 >>>> Gladstone used to wander the streets and befriend prostitutes and pray 
 >>>> with them in the hope that they would see the error of their ways and 
 >>>> return to a more respectable way of life, perhaps as housemaids or 
 >>>> cooks. 
 >>>> 
  
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