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From: JNugent73@mail.com
On 04/11/2025 07:08 pm, Martin Harran wrote:
> On Sat, 1 Nov 2025 15:15:13 +0000, JNugent wrote:
>
>> On 31/10/2025 02:05 pm, The Todal wrote:
>>> On 31/10/2025 12:22, Roger Hayter wrote:
>>>> On 31 Oct 2025 at 11:51:26 GMT, "The Todal"
wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 31/10/2025 10:22, Martin Brown wrote:
>>>>>> In the light of recent events involving the residence of the Andrew
>>>>>> formerly known as a prince I have a question about voiding his lease.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Our village hall is also on a 25 year lease with a peppercorn rent
>>>>>> (although the peppercorn is a bit bigger at £35 p.a. to cover admin
>>>>>> costs). The terms of the lease appear to state that provided that we
>>>>>> look after and maintain the building and don't use it for illegal
>>>>>> purposes or cause a public nuisance the owner grants us a long fixed
>>>>>> term of 25 years (previous ones were 50 years each).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If we fail to keep it in tenantable condition then the landlord has
the
>>>>>> right to engage contractors to sort it out and charge that to us.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However, as far as I can see unless we engaged in criminal activities
>>>>>> *on* the premises or caused a serious public nuisance to our
neighbours
>>>>>> (also their tenants) it is ours to use for the full 25 year lease.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What clause have I missed that allows it to be voided by the landlord?
>>>>>> IANAL so I can't rule out having missed some clever form of words.
>>>>>> I had to have "tenantable condition" explained to me by our
solicitors.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So my main question is: how has the King forced his brother out of
what
>>>>>> is very probably a water tight fixed term lease on Royal Lodge?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Or is that a prerogative of being an absolute monarch?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Is Andrew's lease in the public domain?
>>>>>
>>>>> It would be absolutely wonderful if Andrew sued the King for breach of
>>>>> contract and for a declaration that his lease is valid and cannot be
>>>>> terminated without his consent.
>>>>>
>>>>> With all the real problems faced by our nation and by the world I find
>>>>> it incredible that the media are so preoccupied with the humiliation of
>>>>> Andrew and the King's supposedly sensible and courageous decision to
>>>>> deprive Andrew of his title and hereditary honours. Just in time to
>>>>> forestall any decision in the House of Commons which might have given
>>>>> the impression that Charles is on the back foot, unable to make
>>>>> decisions about his family.
>>>>>
>>>>> There is really nothing less important than Andrew losing the title of
>>>>> Prince (the artist formerly known as Prince) and losing his big house.
>>>>> It's a soap opera to distract the plebs from more important issues.
>>>>>
>>>>> If and when Andrew commits suicide because of the public disgrace, what
>>>>> will be the press and public reaction then? Will he become the Prince
>>>>> of Hearts and will acres of bouquets be laid in the grounds of
>>>>> Sandringham? Or will the verdict be "good riddance, if I'd had my way
>>>>> he'd have had his head chopped off". So perish all royal princes who
>>>>> fuck prostitutes and keep undesirable company with unscrupulous rich
>>>>> playboys. Is it now time for someone to deprive Trump of the title of
>>>>> President and move him out of the White House?
>>>>
>>>> I thought we had come to realise that vulnerable young women
>>>> trafficked and
>>>> sexually exploited were not primarily "prostitutes" so much as
>>>> victims? Or
>>>> does this analysis only apply when the exploiters are Pakistanis?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> You make a valid point.
>>>
>>> Conversely, it is no longer fashionable to see prostitutes as inevitably
>>> the victims of coercion, threatened with violence by pimps, longing to
>>> be rescued from their plight as fallen women and rehabilitated into a
>>> more worthy way of making a living. Objects of pity. William Ewart
>>> Gladstone used to wander the streets and befriend prostitutes and pray
>>> with them in the hope that they would see the error of their ways and
>>> return to a more respectable way of life, perhaps as housemaids or cooks.
>>>
>>> Virginia Giuffre was a victim of sexual abuse long before she met
>>> Epstein, and she was therefore vulnerable and susceptible to
>>> manipulation. But very well rewarded financially by Epstein. Many women
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