From: JNugent73@mail.com 
  
 On 10/08/2025 08:54 PM, The Todal wrote: 
 > On 10/08/2025 16:28, Andy Walker wrote: 
 >> On 10/08/2025 11:31, JNugent wrote: 
 >> [...] 
 >>> But even apart from that sort of semi-organised stuff, there was> 
 >>> still a recognisable residual anti-Jewish attitude in Britain among 
 >>> the older generations, though it was certainly fading. It was normal 
 >>> to hear (overhear) the term "Jewboy" from people you might have 
 >>> thought more measured than that. 
 >> 
 >>      An elderly neighbour was wont, in my childhood, to use the 
 >> term with no pro- or anti-Jewish significance whatsoever.  Any cute 
 >> baby was "Oh, what a pretty jewboy!", with the same sort of meaning 
 >> as "little angel" or "cherub".  I don't know how common that usage 
 >> was, but I'm tolerably sure that she would have been horrified to be 
 >> told "You can't say that!", as if she had used a swear-word.  [She 
 >> would have known about the Holocaust, but would simply not have 
 >> associated "jewboy" with Jewishness.] 
 >> 
 > 
 > I've been watching, for the first time, the excellent Grananda TV 
 > adaptation of "Brideshead Revisited". I recommend it to all. 
 > 
 > However, Waugh, writing in 1945, does use the phrase "jew boy". 
 > Difficult to assess whether it denotes antisemitism. 
 > 
 > quotes 
 > 
 > Next day I gave him the slip and was having a very happy hour in the bar 
 > at the Tokatlian when who should come in but Anthony Blanche with a 
 > beard and a Jew boy. Anthony lent me a tenner just before Sammy came 
 > panting in and recaptured me. After that I didn€€€t get a minute out of 
 > sight; the Embassy staff put us in the boat to Piraeus and watched us 
 > sail away. But in Athens it was easy. I simply walked out of the 
 > Legation one day after lunch, changed my money at Cook€€€s, and asked 
 > about sailings to Alexandria just to fox Sammy, then went down to the 
 > port in a bus, found a sailor who spoke American, lay up with him till 
 > his ship sailed, and popped back to Constantinople, and that was that. 
 > Anthony and the Jew boy shared a very nice, tumbledown house near the 
 > bazaars. 
 > 
 > Waugh, Evelyn. Brideshead Revisited 
  
 That was Waugh reflecting attitudes at the top of society. I can't 
 accurately comment on how well he managed to reflect that stratum. 
  
 But it was petty widespread at the bottom of society as well. The 
 impression I gained was that it was pretty ingrained. Later, after I 
 became aware of the Holocaust around the time that Eichmann was 
 kidnapped and I simultaneously had access to literature on the subject, 
 it occurred to me that the mass-murders exposed in 1945 hadn't really 
 made as much of an impression as one might expect. Some years later, 
 when I was working in engineering, I discovered that post-WW2 atrocities 
 committed against the British (especially working-class conscripted 
 soldiers) in Palestine weighed heavily with people who were then in the 
 prime of life. The people who spoke to me about it were scathing about 
 the murders of British troops captured by the Stern gang and (maybe) others. 
  
 I can remember encountering "Jewboy" as a term tripping easily from the 
 tongues of working class men as late as the 1970s. 
  
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