From: max_demian@bigfoot.com 
  
 On 10/08/2025 15:56, JNugent wrote: 
 > On 10/08/2025 12:30 PM, Max Demian wrote: 
 >> On 09/08/2025 17:02, JNugent wrote: 
 >>> On 07/08/2025 05:16 PM, Max Demian wrote: 
 >>>> On 07/08/2025 01:02, JNugent wrote: 
 >>>>> On 06/08/2025 07:02 PM, billy bookcase wrote: 
 >>>>>> "JNugent"  wrote: 
 >>>>>>> billy bookcase wrote: 
 >>>> 
 >>>>>>>> Many Israeli citizens are in fact expatriate Americans 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>> Just like the USA Israel is mainly composed of immigrants 
 >>>>>>>> With the Palestinians the equivalent of Native Americans. 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>> thirdly. While the ill treatment of the Jews never figured as 
 >>>>>>>> grounds for 
 >>>>>>>> going to war with Germany,€€ after the war was won, the discovery 
 >>>>>>>> and 
 >>>>>>>> ending of the Holocaust - assuming there were that many Jewish 
 >>>>>>>> people 
 >>>>>>>> left to murder 
 >>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>> Channeling Dogberry? 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>> Would you care to elaborate please ? 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>> Of course, after I apologise for the typo in the spelling of 
 >>>>> "channelling" (I inadvertently used the American variant). 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>> Dogberry is a constable in Shakespeare's play "Much Ado About 
 >>>>> Nothing", though I am sure I didn't need to tell that to a man of your 
 >>>>> literary achievements. 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>> He is an early analogue to Mrs Malaprop (a character in Sheridan's 
 >>>>> "the Rivals", though you already knew that too) who continually 
 >>>>> mistakes in using words which sound vaguely similar to the words she 
 >>>>> actually wanted. Dogberry does the same, repeatedly, but there is a 
 >>>>> particular line wherein he gets his numerical order of thought wrong: 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>> "DOGBERRY: 
 >>>>> First, I ask thee what they have done; thirdly, I ask thee what's 
 >>>>> their offence; sixth and lastly, why they are committed; and, to 
 >>>>> conclude, what you lay to their charge." 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>> [Much Ado, Act III, Scene V] 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>> Pretty good, isn't it? ;-) 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>> I assumed you were making a humorous and even witty reference to the 
 >>>>> constable by omitting your second bullet point, moving straight from 
 >>>>> "in the first place" to "thirdly". 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>> That IS what you were doing, isn't it? 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>>> Anyway thank you for giving me the opportunity to mention the€€ Fourth 
 >>>>>> and Fifth imporant reasons for the US's *continuing* support of 
 >>>>>> Israel 
 >>>>>> down the years. 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>> Which I'd somehow failed to mention. 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>> More Dogberry? 
 >>>> 
 >>>> That's a rather obscure literary reference. I thought you were talking 
 >>>> about Dogbert, Dilbert's dog. 
 >>> 
 >>> Shakespeare... obscure? :-) 
 >> 
 >> Not everything he wrote is well known. 
 > 
 > Ooh... that very much... er... sort of... depends. 
 > 
 > And "Much Ado..." is one of his more frequently-performed works. 
  
 It's nothing to do with how often a play is performed, it's a matter of 
 which "sound bites" are well known. "To be or not to be"; "A horse, a 
 horse, my kingdom for a horse." And lots of sayings that come from 
 Shakespeare without most people knowing (or caring) like "salad days" 
 and lots of others. 
  
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 Max Demian 
  
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