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  Msg # 12634 of 12811 on ZZUK4448, Sunday 8-02-25, 7:42  
  From: JNUGENT  
  To: MAX DEMIAN  
  Subj: Re: BBC Charter (1/2)  
 From: JNugent73@mail.com 
  
 On 01/08/2025 07:29 PM, Max Demian wrote: 
 > On 01/08/2025 18:43, JNugent wrote: 
 >> On 01/08/2025 04:19 PM, Jethro_uk wrote: 
 >>> On Fri, 01 Aug 2025 12:14:11 +0100, JNugent wrote: 
 >>> 
 >>>> On 31/07/2025 09:16 PM, Jethro_uk wrote: 
 >>>>> On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 17:10:35 +0100, Martin Harran wrote: 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>>> On Fri, 18 Jul 2025 15:30:21 +0100, JNugent  
 >>>>>> wrote: 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>>> On 18/07/2025 01:51 PM, Mark Goodge wrote: 
 >>>>>>>> On Thu, 17 Jul 2025 16:03:49 +0100, Roland Perry  
 >>>>>>>> wrote: 
 >>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>> In message , at 13:59:10 on Thu, 
 >>>>>>>>> 17 Jul 2025, JNugent  remarked: 
 >>>>>>>>>> On 16/07/2025 06:49 PM, billy bookcase wrote: 
 >>>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>>>> "JNugent"  wrote in message 
 >>>>>>>>>>> news:mdq2h5FotucU1@mid.individual.net... 
 >>>>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>>>>> You snipped it (for your own rasons), but can you posit an 
 >>>>>>>>>>>> innocent reason for BBC vacancies being advertised in The 
 >>>>>>>>>>>> Guardian, but not The Times or The Telegraph? 
 >>>>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>>>> Even assuming that the claim is true 
 >>>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>>> It is. 
 >>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>> And not the slightest bit un-usual. Back in the day, jobs for 
 >>>>>>>>> senior managers in the IT industry (amongst others) were normally 
 >>>>>>>>> advertised only in The Sunday Times. Quite irrespective of the 
 >>>>>>>>> paper's politics. 
 >>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>> Similarly jobs for senior schoolteachers, only in the TES (Times 
 >>>>>>>>> Educational Supplement). 
 >>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>> Why waste your money advertising elsewhere, when virtually all 
 >>>>>>>>> your 
 >>>>>>>>> target audience will be assiduously scanning the one appropriate 
 >>>>>>>>> publication every week? 
 >>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>> Indeed. It works both ways. Cornering the market for a particular 
 >>>>>>>> type of paid content (eg, job adverts) is a very good way of also 
 >>>>>>>> increasing the views of your own content (reportage) and other paid 
 >>>>>>>> content (general advertising). And once you have a reputation for 
 >>>>>>>> being the place people will look for these adverts, then the 
 >>>>>>>> advertisers will focus on putting them in your publication. 
 >>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>> Another one which used to do that very effectively, pre-Internet, 
 >>>>>>>> was the Evening Standard with its rental adverts. If you wanted to 
 >>>>>>>> rent a flat in London, you needed to buy the Standard, because 
 >>>>>>>> that's where all the adverts were. And if you had a flat you wanted 
 >>>>>>>> to find a tenant for, you had to advertise it in the Standard 
 >>>>>>>> because that's where everybody was looking. 
 >>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>> They were private sector adverts, placed most of the time by private 
 >>>>>>> individuals. 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>> Not sure if it's still the case but back when i was working in 
 >>>>>> Northern Ireland (70s to 90s), firms generally placed employment ads 
 >>>>>> in both a 'Catholic' paper and a 'Protestant' paper so as not to run 
 >>>>>> foul of fair emplyment legislation. 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>> NI is a special place for the equality act. As a few recruitment 
 >>>>> systems have discovered to their cost. 
 >>>> 
 >>>> Is there any good reason why discrimination forbidden and policed in 
 >>>> Northern Ireland should be allowed - and even encouraged - in the rest 
 >>>> of the UK? 
 > 
 >>> I suggest you read a history of Ireland from Cromwell to the present 
 >>> day. 
 > 
 >> Woud it not be possible to just answer the question? 
 >> 
 >> Is there any good reason why discrimination forbidden and policed in 
 >> Northern Ireland should be allowed - and even encouraged - in the rest 
 >> of the UK? 
 > 
 > We like to be as free as possible but not where it leads to people 
 > killing one another. 
  
 Thank you, but that doesn't really answer my question, which was in any 
 case asked of another poster. 
  
 Is providing a deterrent against violence and murder the only reason for 
 restricting freedoms in England, Wales and Scotland? 
  
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  * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2) 

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