From: roger@hayter.org 
  
 On 3 Aug 2025 at 21:51:10 BST, ""Jeff Gaines""  wrote: 
  
 > On 03/08/2025 in message <106oc3p$1p5g9$1@dont-email.me> billy bookcase 
 > wrote: 
 > 
 >> 
 >> "Jeff Gaines"  wrote in message 
 >> news:xn0p93vrt34e4rb007@news.individual.net... 
 >>> On 03/08/2025 in message <106nc27$1i01k$1@dont-email.me> billy bookcase 
 >>> wrote: 
 >>> 
 >>>> 
 >>>> "Jeff Gaines"  wrote in message 
 >>>> news:xn0p93an42btlv0003@news.individual.net... 
 >>>>> On 02/08/2025 in message <106m042$19mmo$1@dont-email.me> billy bookcase 
 >>>>> wrote: 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>> "Jeff Gaines"  wrote in message 
 >>>>>> news:xn0p92k491t0y36002@news.individual.net... 
 >>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>> There is talk of legislation for Muslims but why oh why don't we have 
 one 
 >>>>>>> set of 
 >>>>>>> religious discrimination legislation whether you are a Catholic, CoE, 
 >>>>>>> Baptist, 
 >>>>>>> Muslim, Jew whatever? 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>> But then what about Jedi ? 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>> Or even Atheists ? 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>> Why should they be left out ? 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>> So that almost everyone in the UK who was turned down for a job could 
 >>>>>> then claim it was because of their relgious beliefs. And pick up 
 >>>>>> thousands of pounds in compensation 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>> With all the agnostics, quickly having second thoughts. 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>> Are you really sure you've thought this one through ? 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>> No, I haven't thought it through, I have made a suggestion that would 
 help 
 >>>>> control the 
 >>>>> deficiencies and inequalities in current legislation. 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>> A simple idea might be to have a list of recognised religions, perhaps 
 >>>>> something like 
 >>>>> that exists. 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>> If I have understood it, at the moment I could say the Methodists have 
 >>>>> undue influence 
 >>>>> over Parliament/State/Government but I cannot say that about all 
 >>>>> religions. 
 >>>> 
 >>>> In pure marketing terms for the past say 1000 years at least, 
 >>>> "Anti-Semitism" 
 >>>> has been a leading "Brand". It has been found so appealing, that as a 
 >>>> result 
 >>>> Jews have been abused and expelled, from almost every Country in Europe 
 >>>> at 
 >>>> one time or other. 
 >>>> 
 >>>> Whereas nowadays "Civilsed" Countries (obvuously excepting Trumps USA) 
 no 
 >>>> longer feelk it acceptable to keep expelling people, or murdering 6 
 >>>> million 
 >>>> of them. Which is why Governments have found it necessary to adopt 
 >>>> special measures when it comes to these "Leading Brands". 
 >>>> 
 >>>> And doubtless you will have noticed that Tommy Robisnson and his friends 
 >>>> are having some success in launching their own New Brand here in 
 >>>> the UK. Based on their hate word "Muslims" , So they only  need to 
 >>>> mention 
 >>>> their brand name "Muslims" and large numbers of people become very angry 
 >>>> and agitated. Which is not a good thing. 
 >>>> 
 >>>> Whereas if somebody shouted "Methodists", everyone would simply shrug. 
 >>>> 
 >>>> Can you spot the difference ? 
 >>> 
 >>> Absolutely my point. 
 >>> 
 >>> We are chasing anti-whatever and introducing ad-hoc law when it appears 
 >>> rather than 
 >>> writing general and consistent legislation to cover all cases. 
 >> 
 >> Are you seriously suggesting that the Criminal Justice System, both in 
 >> terms of legislation and enforcement, policing etc should devote 
 >> an equal amount of resources to legislating for, and monitoring 
 >> "Anti Methodism"; which has *never actually existed* ? As it 
 >> does to legislating for, and monitoring  Anti Semitism; which has a 
 >> blood-stained history of persecution going back more than 1000 years ? 
 >> 
 >> Seriously ? 
 >> 
 >> bb 
 > 
 > Yes, why should any one religion have precedence? It would refer to 
 > "religion" (to be defined) rather than each specific religion. 
  
 I'm rather confused; what law are you referring to that protects one 
 religion 
 more than another? Are you sure they just haven't been any attempts to 
 persecute or whip up hatred agains members of most religions? Are you sure 
 that a serious threat to persecute or kill methodists would not be severely 
 punished in the unlikely event that it happened? 
  
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