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  Msg # 12590 of 12811 on ZZUK4448, Saturday 8-01-25, 7:09  
  From: ROGER HAYTER  
  To: ROLAND PERRY  
  Subj: Re: Definitive maps  
 From: roger@hayter.org 
  
 On 1 Aug 2025 at 18:15:10 BST, "Roland Perry"  wrote: 
  
 > In message , at 
 > 14:27:26 on Fri, 1 Aug 2025, Jon Ribbens  
 > remarked: 
 >> There's either two possibilities, and I think the answer could be either 
 >> depending on which local authority it is. 
 >> 
 >> Either it isn't "the Definitive Map" at all, it's just an online map, 
 >> in which case I would expect there's no statutory duty to update it. 
 >> It might claim to reflect information from the Definitive Map, but 
 >> that doesn't make it definitive itself. 
 >> 
 >> Or, it is "the Definitive Map", in which case it is, er, definitive. 
 > 
 > The Cambridgeshire one's web page is titled "Definitive Map". 
 > 
 >> If it shows a right of way exists, then it does, and if it doesn't, 
 >> it doesn't. If they haven't updated it to show rights of way that 
 >> the council intended to create, then they haven't created them. 
 > 
 > Are you suggesting it's like TROs without matching road signage, not in 
 > force until both parts have been fully executed? 
  
 Unlike a TRO, which establishes a criminal offence and therefore errors 
 should 
 be interpreted in favour of the defendant, a definitive map dispute is 
 likely 
 to be between two civil litigants, and it is not intrinsically obvious which 
 should suffer detriment because of deficiences in the LA's administration. 
  
  
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