From: billy@anon.com
"JNugent" wrote in message news:mf4cljFs0vi
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> On 01/08/2025 04:19 PM, Jethro_uk wrote:
>> On Fri, 01 Aug 2025 12:14:11 +0100, JNugent wrote:
>>
>>> On 31/07/2025 09:16 PM, Jethro_uk wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 17:10:35 +0100, Martin Harran wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 18 Jul 2025 15:30:21 +0100, JNugent
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 18/07/2025 01:51 PM, Mark Goodge wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thu, 17 Jul 2025 16:03:49 +0100, Roland Perry
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In message , at 13:59:10 on Thu,
>>>>>>>> 17 Jul 2025, JNugent remarked:
>>>>>>>>> On 16/07/2025 06:49 PM, billy bookcase wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "JNugent" wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:mdq2h5FotucU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You snipped it (for your own rasons), but can you posit an
>>>>>>>>>>> innocent reason for BBC vacancies being advertised in The
>>>>>>>>>>> Guardian, but not The Times or The Telegraph?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Even assuming that the claim is true
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It is.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And not the slightest bit un-usual. Back in the day, jobs for
>>>>>>>> senior managers in the IT industry (amongst others) were normally
>>>>>>>> advertised only in The Sunday Times. Quite irrespective of the
>>>>>>>> paper's politics.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Similarly jobs for senior schoolteachers, only in the TES (Times
>>>>>>>> Educational Supplement).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why waste your money advertising elsewhere, when virtually all your
>>>>>>>> target audience will be assiduously scanning the one appropriate
>>>>>>>> publication every week?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Indeed. It works both ways. Cornering the market for a particular
>>>>>>> type of paid content (eg, job adverts) is a very good way of also
>>>>>>> increasing the views of your own content (reportage) and other paid
>>>>>>> content (general advertising). And once you have a reputation for
>>>>>>> being the place people will look for these adverts, then the
>>>>>>> advertisers will focus on putting them in your publication.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Another one which used to do that very effectively, pre-Internet,
>>>>>>> was the Evening Standard with its rental adverts. If you wanted to
>>>>>>> rent a flat in London, you needed to buy the Standard, because
>>>>>>> that's where all the adverts were. And if you had a flat you wanted
>>>>>>> to find a tenant for, you had to advertise it in the Standard
>>>>>>> because that's where everybody was looking.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They were private sector adverts, placed most of the time by private
>>>>>> individuals.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not sure if it's still the case but back when i was working in
>>>>> Northern Ireland (70s to 90s), firms generally placed employment ads
>>>>> in both a 'Catholic' paper and a 'Protestant' paper so as not to run
>>>>> foul of fair emplyment legislation.
>>>>
>>>> NI is a special place for the equality act. As a few recruitment
>>>> systems have discovered to their cost.
>>>
>>> Is there any good reason why discrimination forbidden and policed in
>>> Northern Ireland should be allowed - and even encouraged - in the rest
>>> of the UK?
>>
>> I suggest you read a history of Ireland from Cromwell to the present day.
>
> Woud it not be possible to just answer the question?
>
> Is there any good reason why discrimination [is] forbidden and policed in
Northern
> Ireland should be allowed
It was forbidden in Northern Ireland specifically because Protestants owned
the majority, but not all of the major manufacturers. Incomers being the
main exception. And so favoured their fellow Protestants, when recruiting
for jobs.
As they also did, when allocating Council Housing
> and even encouraged - in the rest of the UK?
>
There is no such religious discrimination in recruiting being practised
in the remainder of the UK not only because it is strictly illegal, but
simply because there is no similar societal basis,
There of course exceptions; when recruiting for religiously sensitive
roles for instance
bb
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