From: billy@anon.com 
  
 "Jon Ribbens"  wrote in message 
 news:slrn108htfm.78h.jon+usenet@raven.unequivocal.eu... 
 > On 2025-07-29, kat  wrote: 
 >> On 28/07/2025 20:04, Mark Goodge wrote: 
 >>> On Mon, 28 Jul 2025 14:17:20 +0100, JNugent  wrote: 
 >>>> When anyone says "I was taught X at school", they mean, and are taken to 
 >>>> mean, that it was formally taught to them as part of the purposes and 
 >>>> objectives of the school. 
 >>> 
 >>> No, they don't. They really don't. You appear to be in a minority of 
 >>> one as regards this particular non-standard opinion. 
 >> 
 >> I would say that I was "taught" what I needed to know to pass exams, 
 >> but that there were other things I "learned".  I was taught how to 
 >> play hockey, but I learned I was useless at it. 
 >> 
 >> Yes, it is all education, but I tend to see a difference.  I didn't 
 >> have to agree with opinions of teachers. 
 > 
 > Ok, but that's not what Mark and JNugent are talking about. You are 
 > making a distinction between information deliberately passed on by 
 > teachers and things you learned for yourself. JNugent is purporting 
 > to make a distinction between different types of information passed 
 > on by teachers, and he's clearly wrong, and your comment doesn't 
 > support what he's saying. 
  
 I've relayed this anecdote before; but it bears repetition in this 
 context. 
  
 I went to a rugby playing school. The school took on a new teacher who 
 both taught Geography, ISTR, and doubled up as the Assistant Games 
 Master. 
  
 This chap was either a Kiwi or a Polynesian/Fijian/Samoan whatever; 
 and was always immaculately turned out, as if he was straight out of 
 the barbers; sometimes in a blazer with a badge on it. Rumour had it 
 that he was full Rugby international. 
 But there was no Internet in those days, and most of us were more 
 interested in the doings of Jimmy Greaves at Chelsea, 
  
 Anyway one day, in class, during a lesson somebody asked about, or 
 just happened to mention Australian Aborigines. And this chap just 
 exploded "The Aborigines are no better than animals. They eat 
 insects and all sorts etc. etc. ". This was met by stunned silence 
 from all of us; as this chap had never lost his cool before. 
  
 We all assumed I think, that this description of the Australian 
 Aborigines as being no better than animals, wasn't part of the 
 Official School Curriculum. 
  
 And was probably the worst example of overt racism that any of 
 us had ever encountered up until that point. Although I doubt any 
 of the 25 - 30 of us reported it. 
  
 While as to anti-semitism; it wasn't until years later, that 
 I first encounted people who were apparently obsessed with 
 discovering whether people in the public eye or even colleagues 
 were "actually Jewish" or not. 
  
  
  
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