From: hex@unseen.ac.am 
  
 On 17/08/2025 11:05, GB wrote: 
 > On 16/08/2025 19:07, Norman Wells wrote: 
 >> On 16/08/2025 14:12, billy bookcase wrote: 
  
 >>> The judgement was only *after* she'd already pleaded guilty. 
 >>> And *her own counsel* agreed that "she "intended to incite 
 >>> serious violence" * 
 >>> 
 >>> Had she, and he not done so, then the outcome might have been 
 >>> altogether different; with no call for any judgement at all, 
 >> It's entirely the decision of the client how to plead.€€ And she was 
 >> fully aware of the consequences, as demonstrated by her signing, 
 >> before the hearing, 'the endorsement' prepared by Mr Muir: 
 >> 
 >> €€€I Lucy Connolly [date of birth given] confirm that I do not wish 
 >> to enter a basis of plea and I understand that this means I am 
 >> conceding that at the point I published the tweet I intended to 
 >> incite as per the category 1 feature. I do this as I do not believe 
 >> I will be successful at a Newton hearing and I do not want to risk 
 >> my credit. This is my decision under no pressure from anyone 
 >> else. I know therefore that this would be a category 1A offence 
 >> with a starting point of 3 years€€€ imprisonment.€€€ 
 >> 
 >> See para 43 of the CoA judgement. 
 > 
 > That's actually rather full of jargon. For example, I had to search to 
 > find out what a Newton hearing is. "Category 1 feature", similarly. 
 > 
 > Even so, the "starting point of 3 years€€€ imprisonment" seems clear as 
 > crystal to me. Not even a simpleton could misunderstand it. 
 > 
 > Perhaps, she made a complicated calculation and convinced herself that 
 > she'd be sentenced to less than 2 years, so it could be suspended? 
  
 If she did, she was gambling on an absolute minimum sentence being 
 imposed (3 years), and on an absolute maximum reduction of one-third (ie 
 down to 2 years), and on suspension being deemed appropriate by the 
 judge, which would have been a pretty high odds treble at Ladbrokes. 
  
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