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  Msg # 12508 of 12811 on ZZUK4448, Monday 8-17-25, 6:32  
  From: DAVEY  
  To: MARTIN BROWN  
  Subj: Re: Being forced to lie on forms ?  
 From: davey@example.invalid 
  
 On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 10:03:24 +0100 
 Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote: 
  
 > On 16/08/2025 15:07, Jethro_uk wrote: 
 > > Recently registered with a job site. 
 > > 
 > > Thanks to it's "curated" approach, I am unable to enter the 
 > > establishment where I got my degree. 
 > 
 > Do you really want to be registered with an job search organisation 
 > that cannot design a web form correctly? 
 > 
 > > It doesn't allow you to add to the list or provide space for 
 > > "other". The only way to proceed is to enter one of it's listed 
 > > places. 
 > > 
 > > Assuming this outfit were to advance me to an employer who selects 
 > > me for consideration and potentially employment, and assuming I 
 > > tell the truth (if possible) when commencing employment, would 
 > > there be any issues ? 
 > 
 > I think you would have to explain at the interview stage that the 
 > limitations of the web form prevented you from putting in the true 
 > name of the institution where you obtained your degree. 
 > 
 > If you leave it until you have accepted the job offer then it is 
 > bordering on deception and you may find yourself jobless. PDQ 
 > 
 > Unless you are fresh out of university recent relevant experience is 
 > weighted a lot more highly than distant past academic qualifications. 
 > 
 > > Is there any general legal principle when very bad (or more often 
 > > US) design results in someone being required to lie to advance an 
 > > automated process ? Or is the strict legal answer that if you 
 > > cannot answer the question truthfully, you are excluded from the 
 > > process ? 
 > 
 > I have the problem all the time with my home address since so many 
 > forms insist that you must live on a road with a street name (I 
 > don't). The street name is almost invariably compulsory on all web 
 > form addresses. 
 > 
 > I alternate between "No street name" and "Main street". 
 > 
  
  
 When I lived in the US, I was often filling in forms that required my 
 middle initial, which doesn't exist. And when I say 'required', I mean 
 they would not progress unless there was an entry in there. 
  
 One of the Detroit area weathermen was famously called 'Dwayne X 
 Riley'. The 'X' stood for 'Xavior', some folks' middle initials stood 
 for nothing. When he died, Dwayne left behind "his 11 children, 
 24 grandchildren, and 19 great-grandchildren". 
  
 -- 
 Davey. 
  
 --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05 
  * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2) 

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