XPost: uk.politics.misc 
 From: pamela.uklegal@gmail.com 
  
 On 08:55  14 Jul 2019, Keema's Nan  wrote: 
  
 > On 13 Jul 2019, Norman Wells wrote 
 > (in article ): 
 > 
 >> On 13/07/2019 11:23, Pamela wrote: 
 >> > On 11:07 13 Jul 2019, Keema's Nan  wrote: 
 >> > 
 >> > > On 13 Jul 2019, Pamela wrote 
 >> > > (in article ): 
 >> > > 
 >> > > > On 08:40 13 Jul 2019, Ian 
 >> > > > Jackson wrote: 
 >> > > > 
 >> > > > > In 
 >> > > > > message<0001HW.22D9288F002BB4A67000018152EF@news.giganews.com>, 
 >> > > > > Keema's Nan   writes 
 >> > > > > > On 12 Jul 2019, Ian Jackson wrote 
 >> > > > > > (in article <+b$nYvBG9OKdFwZ1@brattleho.plus.com>): 
 >> > > > > > 
 >> > > > > > > In message, Pamela 
 >> > > > > > >   writes 
 >> > > > > > > 
 >> > > > > > > > 
 >> > > > > > > > Nor should our ambassador be allowed to resign almost 
 >> > > > > > > > immediately because that causes considerable damage to 
 >> > > > > > > > Britain's image. 
 >> > > > > > > 
 >> > > > > > > No. 
 >> > > > > > > 
 >> > > > > > > "You got to know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em 
 >> > > > > > > Know when to walk away and know when to run" 
 >> > > > > > 
 >> > > > > > Do you really think Trump would make any kind of decent poker 
 >> > > > > > player? If he had a bad hand he would throw a hissy fit, and 
 >> > > > > > if anyone beat him, he would stick them on death row for 
 >> > > > > > crimes against the president. 
 >> > > > > > 
 >> > > > > > Which all goes to prove we should have called his bluff. 
 >> > > > > No. It's unlikely that Trump will ever say "Let's kiss and make 
 >> > > > > up." When his private communications to the UK government were 
 >> > > > > made public, Darroch's position became untenable, and his job 
 >> > > > > impossible. 
 >> > > > 
 >> > > > Trump respects those who stand up to him. 
 >> > > 
 >> > > Precisely, and walks all over those who back down. 
 >> > > 
 >> > > Notice how the sycophants are endlessly repeating the "Darroch's 
 >> > > position became untenable, and his job impossible line, which will 
 >> > > continue until they realise just how much they have been duped by a 
 >> > > power mad nut job. 
 >> > > 
 >> > > Once they realise their mistake they will go deathly silent on the 
 >> > > subject, and revert to the no-deal Brexit nonsense. 
 >> > 
 >> > The real danger comes from showing Trump how a few noisy tweets can 
 >> > force the UK to remove its carefully selected ambassador within a 
 >> > mere 72 hours. 
 >> 
 >> The UK did not remove him. He decided to resign. Off his own bat. 
 >> 
 >> > Trump now knows the UK doesn't fight back when he gets angry. 
 >> > 
 >> > We should have dragged this out for months, perhaps recalling 
 >> > Darroch, and put up with Trump's petulance 
 >> 
 >> Leaving us with no amabssador in the USA. How would that help? 
 >> 
 >> > -- except that after Brexit we have no other 
 >> > place to go than America. 
 >> 
 >> The UK doesn't have to 'go' anywhere. 
 >> 
 >> > No other country in Europe would have rolled over so fast. It's hard 
 >> > to be proud to be British when Quislings run this country. Thank you 
 >> > for nothing, Boris. 
 >> 
 >> It may have escaped your attention, but Boris does not 'run this 
 >> country'. He's not Prime Minister. He's not even in the government. 
 >> He doesn't appoint ambassadors, nor remove them. 
 > 
 > The €on message€ but totally naive right wing response - 
 > 
 > €It€s just not ambassadorial conduct€ - Harrumph 
 > 
 > €He was left with no choice€ - Harrumph 
 > 
 > €Position was untenable€ - Harrumph 
 > 
 > €Government not involved€ - Harrumph 
 > 
 > €The OSA has been broken€ - Harrumph 
 > 
 > €This is a case for the police€ - Harrumph 
 > 
 > Repeat at least 30 times...... 
  
 Not forgetting his other point that "Boris isn't PM yet and therefore has 
 zero influence" 
  
 I don't think all this is necessarily a right wing response.  Instead I 
 think Norman has found a new subject for trolling and is milking it. 
  
 He repeats his simplistic black and white interpretation (it's probably 
 his Asperger's again), without understanding it properly. 
  
 This has been a major breach of protocol and an unprecedented attack on 
 our diplomatic service.  However poor Norman is lost in musings about "no 
 one could prevent it, so let the Americans walk over us at whatever cost 
 to our international standing". 
  
 He probably thinks he's reducing the matter to its cre principles but in 
 fact he's vastly oversimplifying to the point of absurdity.  That's Norman 
 for you. 
  
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