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 From: tims_new_home@yahoo.com 
  
 "Stephen Cole"  wrote in message 
 news:h0j47qF1vjlU1@mid.individual.net... 
 > The Todal  wrote: 
 >> On 14/10/2019 10:54, Incubus wrote: 
 >>> On 2019-10-13, nightjar  wrote: 
 >>>> On 13/10/2019 16:43, tim... wrote: 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>> "nightjar"  wrote in message 
 >>>>> news:YMCdnZDnRYaYlT7AnZ2dnUU78I_NnZ2d@giganews.com... 
 >>>> ... 
 >>>>>> Of greater influence are probably dissatisfaction with the mess that 
 >>>>>> the Brexiteers have made of the process so far 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>> ITYF it was a Remainer who made a mess of the process 
 >>>> 
 >>>> Mrs May achieved a reasonable deal that the EU could live with. It was 
 >>>> the extreme Brexiteers who stopped that deal getting through 
 >>>> parliament. 
 >>> 
 >>> The deal was an absolute turd but you will find that Remainers in 
 >>> Parliament 
 >>> also voted it down. 
 >>> 
 >> 
 >> The deal was actually an excellent one, 
 > 
 > Whoa! May€€€s deal was the only possible deal, given her red lines, but 
 that 
 > doesn€€€t make it an excellent deal. A better deal would have been 
 something 
 > much closer to Norway€€€s relationship with the EU. But that still would 
 > have 
 > been crap compared to our current deal, aka membership of the EU, of 
 > course. 
  
 Norway still won't solve the Irish border problem 
  
 That would have to be Norway plus the Customs Union, which is so close to 
 staying in it's hardly worth bothering with 
  
 tim 
  
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