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 From: dave@davenoise.co.uk 
  
 In article , 
    Steve Walker  wrote: 
 > It is even harder than that. I voted leave, fully expecting us to suffer 
 > for it in the short term, but for my children and their children to gain 
 > from the freedom of being citizens of a country that can make its own 
 > decisions. 
  
 Fairy nuff. But sadly, in the run up to the referendum, leave didn't make 
 this clear at all. Indeed any talk of even short term suffering was 
 derided as project fear. Nor were there any firm plans for the future on 
 just who was going to replace the EU as free trade partners. Even more so 
 now Trump is in power across the pond. 
  
 > > The net effect is that there will be a trend towards greater support 
 > > for remain, but I'm not sure that 3-4 years is long enough for that 
 > > to make a significant difference. 
 > > 
 > > Of greater influence are probably dissatisfaction with the mess that 
 > > the Brexiteers have made of the process so far and a growing 
 > > realisation of just how much of the Leave campaign was pure fantasy. 
  
 > Even a lot of remainers seem to think that the mess is at least as much 
 > due to remainer MPs working against leaving at all and many of the ones 
 > I know think that we should get on with implementing the result of the 
 > referendum and that failing to do so is highly damaging to the public's 
 > trust in politicians in general. 
  
 Well, very few politicians indeed look to the long term. Unless you think 
 long term being the time between elections. 
  
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