XPost: uk.radio.amateur, uk.politics.misc, uk.d-i-y 
 From: dave@davenoise.co.uk 
  
 In article <1ofeekn.129l5m81yw6yhzN%roger@hayter.org>, 
    Roger Hayter  wrote: 
 > > > Socialism is by defiinition internationalist.  That is not to say that 
 > > > socialists shouldn't be patriotic and back there own country  in a 
 > > > genuine dispute.  But, whatever it calls itself, a nationalist party is 
 > > > *not* socialist but something else entirely. 
 > > > 
 > > > 
 > > Rubbish 
  
 > You say that because you use a crass, simplistic economic definition 
 > socialism that would apply equally to a benevolent absolute monarchy or 
 > even a caliphate. 
  
 You can't expect Turnip to accept that socialism is a developing ideal, 
 given he lives in a time warp. 
  
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