From: kylix_is@yahoo.co.uk 
  
 On Sun, 13 Oct 2019 14:32:17 +0100, Ian Jackson 
  wrote: 
  
 >In message <580246b30ccharles@candehope.me.uk>, charles 
 > writes 
 >>In article <58024428bddave@davenoise.co.uk>, 
 >>   Dave Plowman (News)  wrote: 
 >>> In article , 
 >>>    Stephen Cole  wrote: 
 >>> > Dave Plowman (News)  wrote: 
 >>> > > In article , 
 >>> > >    Cursitor Doom  wrote: 
 >>> > >> I still have a legitimate interest, mate. And if there's another 
 >>> > >> Referendum I'll be voting in it again, same as before, just like 
 >>> > >> everyone else who voted Leave - plus not a few former Remainers 
 >>> > >> who've seen the light over the last 3 years. 
 >>> > > 
 >>> > > Oddly, most the polls seem to show the opposite has happened. 
 >>> > > 
 >> 
 >>> > That€s no surprise as the electorate has changed; a million or more 
 dead 
 >>> > Leave voters and a couple million freshly-minted teenage voters since 
 >>> > June 2016. The longer that Brexit is fobbed off before a 2nd referendum 
 >>> > the more the scales will tip toward Remain. 
 >> 
 >>> True. And it is their future which is important. More than those of the 
 >>> old farts who talk about the last WW all the time. Even although they 
 >>> weren't in it. 
 >> 
 >>I was 5 when WW2 ended. you'd need to have been 13 years older than me to 
 >>have served in it - that's 92+ 
 >> 
 >You can get two in-phoners who start off by saying exactly the same 
 >thing - but end up by making points that are diametrically opposite. 
 > 
 >"My grandfather fought in WW1, and my father fought in WW2. The wars 
 >occurred because the Germans were allowed to become too powerful - and 
 >the EU has allowed them again to become far too powerful. My father 
 >reckons that before long, they will be totally dominating all the 
 >members of the EU (including the UK), and they will be dictating what we 
 >do. We therefore need to leave." 
 > 
 >"My grandfather fought in WW1, and my father fought in WW2. The wars 
 >occurred because the Germans were allowed to become too powerful. 
 >However, my father says that the EU will make sure that they are kept in 
 >check, and they will not be able to do again. Because of the EU, Europe 
 >is a much safer place than it used to be." 
  
 And obviously the second version is the true one, borne out by the 
 past 70 years of peace. 
  
 MM 
  
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