From: kylix_is@yahoo.co.uk 
  
 On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 10:13:00 +0100, The Todal  
 wrote: 
  
 >On 13/10/2019 14:32, Ian Jackson wrote: 
 >> In message <580246b30ccharles@candehope.me.uk>, charles 
 >>  writes 
 >>> In article <58024428bddave@davenoise.co.uk>, 
 >>> € Dave Plowman (News)  wrote: 
 >>>> In article , 
 >>>> €€ Stephen Cole  wrote: 
 >>>> > Dave Plowman (News)  wrote: 
 >>>> > > In article , 
 >>>> > >€€€ Cursitor Doom  wrote: 
 >>>> > >> I still have a legitimate interest, mate. And if there's another 
 >>>> > >> Referendum I'll be voting in it again, same as before, just like 
 >>>> > >> everyone else who voted Leave - plus not a few former Remainers 
 >>>> > >> who've seen the light over the last 3 years. 
 >>>> > > 
 >>>> > > Oddly, most the polls seem to show the opposite has happened. 
 >>>> > > 
 >>> 
 >>>> > That€s no surprise as the electorate has changed; a million or more 
 >>>> dead 
 >>>> > Leave voters and a couple million freshly-minted teenage voters since 
 >>>> > June 2016. The longer that Brexit is fobbed off before a 2nd 
 >>>> referendum 
 >>>> > the more the scales will tip toward Remain. 
 >>> 
 >>>> True. And it is their future which is important. More than those of the 
 >>>> old farts who talk about the last WW all the time. Even although they 
 >>>> weren't in it. 
 >>> 
 >>> I was 5 when WW2 ended. you'd need to have been 13 years older than me to 
 >>> have served in it - that's 92+ 
 >>> 
 >> You can get two in-phoners who start off by saying exactly the same 
 >> thing - but end up by making points that are diametrically opposite. 
 >> 
 >> "My grandfather fought in WW1, and my father fought in WW2. The wars 
 >> occurred because the Germans were allowed to become too powerful - and 
 >> the EU has allowed them again to become far too powerful. My father 
 >> reckons that before long, they will be totally dominating all the 
 >> members of the EU (including the UK), and they will be dictating what we 
 >> do. We therefore need to leave." 
 >> 
 >> "My grandfather fought in WW1, and my father fought in WW2. The wars 
 >> occurred because the Germans were allowed to become too powerful. 
 >> However, my father says that the EU will make sure that they are kept in 
 >> check, and they will not be able to do again. Because of the EU, Europe 
 >> is a much safer place than it used to be." 
 > 
 > 
 >And I have a slightly different permutation. One of my grandfathers 
 >fought in WW1 for the Germans and was awarded an Iron Cross. Another of 
 >my grandfathers fought in WW1 for the Allies and several of my great 
 >uncles were killed in action. 
 > 
 >The main factor that leads to war is mass unemployment and recession. 
 >Unfortunately Brexit is likely to produce recession and an increase in 
 >unemployment. 
  
 If it happens, be prepared for the Tories to start blaming non-whites 
 when they can no longer blame the EU. A new scapegoat is needed! 
  
 MM 
  
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