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  Msg # 31669 of 32022 on ZZUK4447, Monday 11-06-22, 6:03  
  From: JNUGENT  
  To: TIM STREATER  
  Subj: Re: Brexit deal almost agreed!  
 XPost: uk.politics.misc, uk.d-i-y, uk.radio.amateur 
 From: jenningsltd@fastmail.fm 
  
 On 13/10/2019 05:33, Tim Streater wrote: 
 > In article , JNugent 
 >  wrote: 
 > 
 >> On 12/10/2019 16:35, tim... wrote: 
 >>> 
 >>> 
 >>> "Dave Plowman (News)"  wrote in message 
 >>> news:5801d4258edave@davenoise.co.uk... 
 >>>> In article , 
 >>>> €€ Cursitor Doom  wrote: 
 >>>>> I still have a legitimate interest, mate. And if there's another 
 >>>>> Referendum I'll be voting in it again, same as before, just like 
 >>>>> everyone else who voted Leave - plus not a few former Remainers who've 
 >>>>> seen the light over the last 3 years. 
 >>>> 
 >>>> Oddly, most the polls seem to show the opposite has happened. 
 >>> 
 >>> very marginally 
 >>> 
 >>> and to less than the extent that Remain was in the lead before the 
 >>> last vote 
 >>> 
 >>> and you know what campaigning did to that lead. 
 >>> 
 >>>> Wonder what the average UK voter feels about those who have fled the 
 >>>> country to avoid paying taxes being allowed to vote? 
 >>> 
 >>> I for one think that they've got a bloody cheek complaining about 
 >>> being disenfranchised - they chose to be disenfranchised. 
 >> 
 >> That's not as straightforward as some people seem to think. 
 >> 
 >> An ex-pat Brit living in (say) Spain might have a vote in local 
 >> elections in their area of residence, but unless they take pout 
 >> Spanish citizenship they won't be allowed to vote in Spain's 
 >> parliamantary elections (and quite right too). 
 >> 
 >> But unless they're allowed to vote in UK Parliamentary elections - for 
 >> life - they are disenfranchised from having any say in the government 
 >> of anywhere. And that cannot be right. They are not second-class 
 >> people who should have fewer rights than others. 
 > 
 > Then let 'em take out Spanish citizenship. I lived in Switzerland 12 
 > years and California 12 years. I didn't expect to have a vote in either 
 > location. 
  
 Not everyone who lives in Spain is necessarily entitled to Spanish 
 citizenship. 
  
 Spain isn't the UK (with its exceptionally lax controls on citizenship), 
 after all. 
 > 
  
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