XPost: alt.activism, alt.culture.ny-upstate, ny.general 
 XPost: nyc.general 
 From: dogglebe@yahoooo.com 
  
 On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 22:36:25 +0000 (UTC), danny burstein 
  wrote: 
  
 >In <85bse0t5624di9co3cft6ol7th8faij03s@4ax.com> Phil  
 writes: 
 > 
 >>That loophole does exist. 
 > 
 >nope. They (companies you've dealt with) are allowed initial contact even 
 >if you're on the do not call list. But you can then tell them to go away. 
 > 
 >Note that they're still allowed to do safety and billing and similar 
 >calls, which gives them some leeway. But they're not supposed to call you 
 >with a "one week only! Free caller ID if you sign up RIGHT NOW" stuff. 
  
 FF isn't getting sales calls. 
  
  
 > 
 >excerpting from the FTC: 
 > 
 >"A telemarketer or seller may call a consumer with whom it has an 
 >established business relationship for up to 18 months after the consumer's 
 >last purchase, delivery, or payment - even if the consumer's number is on 
 >the National Do Not Call Registry 
 > 
 >"One caveat: if a consumer asks a company not to call, the company may not 
 >call, even if there is an established business relationship. Indeed, a 
 >company may not call a consumer - regardless of whether the consumer's 
 >number is on the registry - if the consumer has asked to be put on the 
 >company's own do not call list 
  
 This excerpt doesn't say how long a company has to take you off their 
 lists once you say you want off. 
  
  
 Phil 
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