XPost: alt.government.abuse, nyc.general, nyc.politics 
 From: dogglebe@yahoooo.com 
  
 On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 21:10:26 GMT, slim  wrote: 
  
 > 
 > 
 >Phil wrote: 
 >> 
 >> On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 15:11:42 GMT, slim  wrote: 
 >> 
 >> >> In order for a DAT to be issued, the police officer must personally 
 >> >> witness the crime being committed. 
 >> > 
 >> >Alleged crime. You may plead not guilty to a DAT. 
 >> 
 >> So, then, until a person is convicted of a crime, he is not a 
 >> criminal.  Is this what you're saying? 
 > 
 >Oh please, Phil.... 
 > 
 >What part of innocent until proven (or admitted) guilty don't 
 >you understand? 
  
 What has Guiliani been convicted of, Mister "Put Giuliani in jail 
 where he belongs!"? 
  
  
 Phil 
  
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