From: bard@dmcom.net 
  
 On Wed, 08 Sep 2004 18:25:37 GMT, "rk"  wrote: 
  
 >Looks like you could be right. I can understand why someone would not think 
 >its a good idea but why try to destroy it for those who might like it. I am 
 >getting tired of having to watch 30+ year old men go through puberty. 
 >Perhaps the best way to try this would be to focus it more narrowly such as 
 >rec.woodworking.handtools or some such. The group can still be moderated and 
 >it might not be percieved as such  threat. There is no way an open group 
 >like rec.woodworking can raise above the mundane. As a group I have found 
 >woodworkers amateur or professional to be some of the most laid back, 
 >nicest and most helpful people you could ever want to meet. What happened to 
 >rec.woodworking? 
 > 
  
 I am not trying to destroy it, just made obsevation that the proposal 
 as it stands has no legs.  Changes could incearse the chances of 
 passing.  Off hand a few more moderators and known moderators could 
 incease the chance of success as far as the vote goes. 
  
 As for a traffic split, that might be indicated as well, though not 
 sure spliting hand tools from power tools being the way to go.  Both 
 tools can be used to make the same item, just how to do it is 
 different. 
  
 If there are at least 100 (and it needs to be more in most cases, 100+ 
 # of No votes)  Yes voters that want the moderated or even just a 
 split they can have such. Put up to a proposal and precede to a vote, 
 if it passes it will be newgrouped.. 
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