Guy Macon  wrote: 
  
 >Paul H. wrote: 
  
 >> I'd say forget it:  after all the problems on rec.photo.digital with 
 >> spammers, trolls, and psychos, the last thing the rec.photo hierarchy 
 >needs 
 >> is another UNMODERATED group. 
  
 >Part of me is with you Paul. As much as I support the newsgroup 
 >creation procedure, I have *lots* and *lots* of frustration for the 
 >lack of willingness of Russ Allmighty to let the communities 
 >self-govern their own charters through a simple amendment process. 
  
 EXCUSE ME.  Russ' "lack of willingness... to let the communities 
 self-govern their own charters"?  Where on Earth did you get that 
 from?  Russ is on public record (repeatedly) stating exactly that 
 charters are strictly under the purview of the readership and NOT 
 by him or anyone currently related to the NAN infrastructure.  He 
 has stated that if a readership wants to change a charter, they 
 just do it without asking for some higher quasi-authority to 
 ratify it.  If that isn't self government, then you have a strange 
 idea of what it is. 
  
 ru 
  
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 Quality, usefulness, merit, or non-newsgroups popularity of a topic 
 is more or less irrelevant in creating a new Big-8 newsgroup. 
 Usenet popularity is the primary consideration. 
  
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