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  Msg # 188 of 32000 on ZZNE4431, Saturday 5-12-23, 11:58  
  From: ARNE VOGEL  
  To: JABRIOL  
  Subj: Re: Talk.Origin banned subject: Molecula  
 XPost: alt.religion.jehovahs-witn, alt.atheism, sci.anthropology.paleo 
 XPost: talk.atheism 
 From: arne@123soft.de 
  
 jabriol wrote: 
  
 > 
 > "Arne Vogel"  wrote in message 
 > news:bl2fg8$62l$00$1@news.t-online.com... 
 >> talk.origins is "robot-moderated", your posts are blocked iff: 
 >> 
 >> - You attempt to cross-post to more than 4 newsgroups (cross-spamming) 
 >> - You hit the Breidbart Index, e.g. post the same message often in 
 >> short time (multi-spamming) 
 >> 
 >> In rare cases your newsserver may be malconfigured, in that case, 
 >> contact your ISP or whoever operates it. 
 >> 
 > 
 > 
 > you are wrong and misinformed: 
  
 1. Thank you for correcting me. 
 2. Content moderation is, when a post is blocked for its content, 
 instead of its "spam factor". 
 3. I see no hint of CM in the rules below. If you're too ignorant 
 to restrict yourself to a handful (how about one?) newsgroup, 
 it's your fault. X-posting to t.o and alt.religion.j-w 
 seems still valid, if you could just get off the 
 "add group" button quickly enough, you could do it. 
 4. Your spam factor seems to have been a major concern to the 
 people organizing the t.o newsgroup. 
 5. Spam rules have a purpose. Keeping Usenet useful in spite 
 of the vandals. 
  
 Btw, in the post that started this thread, you included 
 alt.biology twice. You seem to get lost in your own maze. 
  
 Stop behaving like a political fugitive, it is disrespectful 
 towards the people that >really< get harassed for their views. 
  
 > Patrick James  wrote in message 
 > news:<0001HW.BB98297200BD599AF0305600@enews.newsguy.com>... 
 >> On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 11:53:35 -0500, Frank Reichenbacher wrote 
 >> (in message <5dOdnY__u5XpV-yiRVn-hw@speakeasy.net>): 
 > Hey thanks, You have proven why T.O practice content moderation, 
 > beyond its charter.. 
 > 
 > What shall we call this, Heresay agaisnt science that must be crushed? 
 > 
 > 
 >> I don't even know who the TO moderator is, 
 >> 
 >> David Iain Greig, a.k.a. DIG. 
 >> 
 >> > or how to get in touch with 
 >> > him/her. 
 >> 
 >> Email him or Larry Moran at the University of Toronto. DIG runs the 
 > moderator 
 >> bot which controls posting to t.o. Larry Moran runs the machines on which 
 > the 
 >> bot runs. You could also post a note on t.o. The word will get to them. 
 > Given 
 >> the way that spambots are acting lately, I don't want to post his email 
 > addie 
 >> without asking him first. Hint: the t.o robomoderator bot lives at 
 >> ediacara.org. It's remotely possible that DIG has an address there. 
 >> 
 >> > 
 >> > Even if I did, I wouldn't help you validate your paranoid delusions 
 > anyways. 
 >> > 
 >> 
 >> DIG has stated repeatedly in public that Jabs is not 'banned'. Jabs can 
 > post 
 >> to t.o anytime he wants. It's just that, as a direct result of certain 
 > past 
 >> actions, many of them perpetuated by Jabs, _NO-ONE_ who posts to t.o can 
 > do 
 >> certain things. These include: 
 >> 
 >> 1 xpost to more than three other newsgroups (max groups: four) (largely 
 > Jabs' 
 >> fault) 
 >> 
 >> 2 if one of the groups being xposted to is alt.religion.jehovahs-witn, 
 > then 
 >> the _only_ two groups which can be xposted to are t.o and a.r.j-w. 
 >> (completely Jabs' fault; only he starts threads which are xposted to both 
 > t.o 
 >> and a.r.j-w.) 
 >> 
 >> 3 if one of the groups being xposted to is sci.anthropology.paleo, then 
 > the 
 >> _only_ two groups which can be xposted to are t.o and s.a.p. (largely 
 > Jabs' 
 >> fault, though here he had help) 
 >> 
 >> 4 there can be no, none, zero, xposts between t.o and any other moderated 
 >> group. (nothing to do with Jabs, that's just the way USENET works) 
 >> 
 >> 5 there can be no, none, zero xposts between t.o and certain rape support 
 > and 
 >> other support groups. Note: talk.rape is not a support group and is not 
 >> on the no-go list. 
  
 -- 
 Arne Vogel 
  
 --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05 
  * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2) 

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