Jim Davis  wrote: 
  
 >You'd think with 30,000 downloads of CF at Downloads.com we could fin more 
 >than 100 people that would vote for this... 
  
 I wouldn't.  In other proposals that rely on such stats I always 
 point out that real world conditions mean practically nothing on 
 usenet.  Popularity of a product has little effect on the outcome. 
 It all comes down to whether readers of usenet use the product in 
 sufficient numbers. 
  
 In this particular case, the rationale relied more on readers of 
 existing groups.  It seems that either there aren't that many of 
 them, or that enough aren't interested enough in a Big-8 version 
 of their group (either oppose it or just don' care).  Given that 
 the proponent did discuss this prior to the RFD with good reception 
 according to him, it looks like there just isn't the critical mass 
 on usenet for such a group. 
  
 Given that this is a web related topic, I assume that this topic 
 is discussed on some web forum(s).  Perhaps next time, the proponent 
 should investigate the possibility of contacting these web forums 
 to find if there is any interest there.  Some folks might prefer 
 a usenet forum over a web forum (the reverse is also true), so 
 you might actually be able to pull in a significant readership. 
  
 ru 
  
 P.S. to Jim: next time could you snip down the quoted text? The 
 inclusion of most of the RESULTS text seemed unnecessary to your 
 point. 
  
 -- 
 My standard proposals rant: 
 Quality, usefulness, merit, or non-newsgroups popularity of a topic 
 is more or less irrelevant in creating a new Big-8 newsgroup. 
 Usenet popularity is the primary consideration. 
  
 --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05 
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