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  Msg # 182 of 32000 on ZZNE4431, Saturday 5-12-23, 11:58  
  From: RU.IGARASHI@USASK.CA  
  To: IRENE C  
  Subj: Re: misc.invest.bonds  
 Irene c  wrote: 
 >"Misty9999"  wrote 
 >snip 
 >> I never understood why there is no misc.invest.bonds group. The only 
 >> thing I don't like about the misc.invest* groups are the 
 >> self-promotors. I consider some of the posters stealth spammers. Have 
 >> you considered warning people about that in your charter? 
  
 >I agree in some groups this is a problem, but the size of the problem seems 
 >to vary a lot. 
  
 Any idea if bonds are ever involved in these (indirectly probably 
 in most, right?)? 
  
 >I do have a bit of a warning already in the charter. Do you have any words 
 >you'd like to propose in place of these? 
  
 >To jog people's memories, from the draft charter: "The proposed unmoderated 
 >newsgroup misc.invest.bonds is not intended for for-sale postings. 
 >Advertisements that do appear may be vigorously critiqued." 
  
 Are these self promoters actually selling something?  Yes, I know 
 a service can be sold or advertised, but some folks try to make a 
 distinction.  Some of these might argue semantics, so perhaps adding 
 a generalization (e.g. "commercial", "advertisement") or a 
 specific mention of "self-promoters" (pick the best term) is 
 recommended. 
  
 >I see one recent RFD put the word "will" in for "may be" in a similar 
 >warning. Would you prefer this? 
  
 It's a question of certainty.  If you already know who your readers 
 are, and more to the point, what the general character is like, 
 you may know if they are the kind of folks that will go after someone 
 and thus choose "will".  On the otherhand, if they are not, then you 
 have less of a sense as to how they will react, so you may choose 
 "may be".  The default is probably to use "may be", so that you 
 don't commit yourself/the group at such an early stage. 
  
 ru 
  
 -- 
 My standard proposals rant: 
 Quality, usefulness, merit, or non-newsgroups popularity of a topic 
 is more or less irrelevant in creating a new Big-8 newsgroup. 
 Usenet popularity is the primary consideration. 
  
 --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05 
  * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2) 

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