From: tjmc.enteract@rcn.com 
  
 On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 00:35:08 GMT, JC Dill 
  wrote: 
  
 >On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 16:01:55 +0000, Jon Leech 
 > wrote: 
  
 >>This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) 
  
 >IMHO, this newsgroup is badly needed *and* very unlikely to be 
 >approved or used by those who most need to approve and use it. 
  
 I can think of several groups where this sort of radical proposal would 
 make sense...on paper.  I suspect the proponent Leech is simply looking 
 to establish a group with which he and others can advise and redirect OT 
 discussions.  In other words, a place for them to go.  I know what it 
 feels like to just throw up your hands and say enough is enough. 
  
 I suspect equally he's under no illusions as to odds favoring the 
 ultimate failure of the idea in practice should the proposal win 
 approval. 
  
 I'm not familiar with rad.  But the fact is OT political--unlike a troll 
 problem--is normally and primarily a function of many regulars accepting 
 and participating in the OT discussions.  Short of starting a 
 rad.moderated, however, there is no way to prevent these regulars from 
 continuing to devastate a group. 
  
 All that said, if the proposal should come to a CFV, I will vote in 
 favor.  Should it be approved, I will monitor both groups in an effort 
 to view this worthy experiment. 
  
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