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  Msg # 1162 of 1179 on ZZLI4422, Thursday 11-05-25, 4:30  
  From: ANDREAS TILLE  
  To: ALL  
  Subj: Re: Seeking new members for the DFSG tea  
 15:22:09 
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 eu 
  It's a team that was created/delegated without the members actually 
 > asking 
  
 That response is astonishing to me. The suggestion to split the team 
 originated inside the former ftpmaster team[1] and was raised on 
 multiple occasions. Ftpmasters were informed about the planned 
 delegation split several weeks in advance. It was also mentioned in my 
 bits on debian-devel-announce[2], with a link to the delegation texts in 
 Git. I therefore expected comments from members of the FTPMaster team as 
 well as from the broader Debian community - and indeed received several 
 from people outside the FTPMaster team. 
  
 My last mail on the topic, sent to the ftpmasters' internal list, was: 
  
   Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2025 18:02:53 +0200 
   Message-ID:  
  
   Since I haven't heard any objections or alternative proposals regarding 
   the planned team split, I intend to proceed and send the updated 
   delegations this weekend. 
  
   Of course, if anyone has concerns or suggestions-especially about the 
   timing or wording-please let me know before then. I'd be happy to adjust 
   if needed. 
  
 > /wanting to go that way. 
  
 > So we now have to see how we deal with this 
 > mess that helps nothing at all except for some "Oh i delegated, magic now 
 > will happen" bullshit believes. Might take a day or three or something. 
  
 Unfortunately, no objections or alternative proposals were received, so 
 I proceeded with what seemed the most constructive path forward: 
 creating clearer scopes of responsibility to make it easier for new 
 contributors to join and for existing work to be shared more evenly. 
  
 I intend to continue supporting both teams, in particular by helping the 
 DFSG & Licensing team build up the capacity and structure it needs. 
 That's why I asked for volunteers and why I trust that new contributors 
 can help improve the situation for everyone involved. 
  
 The best way to shape how NEW processing evolves is by taking part in it 
 directly - volunteers are warmly invited to join the renewed DFSG & 
 Licensing team. 
  
 Kind regards 
     Andreas. 
  
 [1] https://salsa.debian.org/debconf-team/public/data/dc24/- 
 /blob/main/etherpad/txt/154-meet-the-ftpteam.txt#L67 
 [2] https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2025/10/msg00000.html 
  
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