From: otto@debian.org 
  
 Hi, 
  
 My original email to this thread said: 
 > Could you please stop pushing directly on 'main' in 
 > https://salsa.debian.org/debian/devscripts and instead publish Merge 
 > Requests? 
  
 Your follow-up later was: 
 > Again, this is the kind of thing that is tedious and annoying and very 
 > much not fun, and if you want me to do that, you will have to pay me to do 
 > it. 
  
 Sure, contributing to Debian should be fun, but it should be fun to 
 *everyone*. People should not justify that they did something because 
 it was "faster to them" or "more fun to them" if it wasn't faster and 
 more fun to everyone participating. 
  
 It was not fun for me to have to do the fixup in 
 https://salsa.debian.org/debian/devscripts/-/commit/1706642676e6 
 0e67486a75713d30e4f757274c5 
 but I did it anyway. It is our obligation to our users to keep Debian 
 in good shape, and occasionally some extra work if needed, even if we 
 are volunteers. 
  
 > warrant the effort (the Linux kernel, for instance). Most projects are not 
 > like that, but more to the point, it's simply not a realistic workload 
 > given the available resources for most projects. 
  
 It is not expensive to do reviews. If we have the tooling for it and 
 people have enough routine so that repeating the steps are in muscle 
 memory: writing a good git commit message explaining *why* the change 
 is made so reviewer gets it immediately, posting a MR, and checking 
 out MRs from other developers working on the same repo etc. Humans 
 tend to get very good and quick on things they do often, so the more 
 one does reviews in MRs, the easier it gets. You have authored any MRs 
 since October 2023, so it is understandable that you probably haven't 
 developed a routine on doing lots of them, and efficiently. 
  
 Maybe the conclusion from this and another email today is that people 
 feel that collaborating via a MR and doing reviews is "expensive" and 
 I should prove that it is actually quite quick and handy when 
 following a clear workflow, and what that ideal workflow could be. 
  
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