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  Msg # 1080 of 1179 on ZZLI4422, Saturday 8-15-25, 8:36  
  From: TIMO =?UTF-8?Q?R=C3=B6HLI  
  To: ALL  
  Subj: Re: Please check open Merge Requests bef  
 From: roehling@debian.org 
  
 Hi, 
  
 * Russ Allbery  [2025-08-14 11:07]: 
 >Otto Kek€€l€€inen  writes: 
 > 
 >> I have now witnessed several cases where a maintainer blatantly 
 >> ignored the MRs their package received. 
 > 
 >As several of us have been noting for some time now, it is very easy to 
 >accidentally ignore Salsa MRs because the defaults don't send email to the 
 >maintainer when an MR is opened. I realize that this may look like 
 >"blatantly ignoring" an MR to people who regularly use Salsa, but for 
 >maintainers who do not, it's often entirely accidental. 
 > 
 >Also, speaking as someone who works on Debian and other free software 
 >projects in bursts, sometimes I just forget about things even if I saw 
 >them. I try to use checklists and work through any open issues 
 >systematically before uploading, and I still cannot count the number of 
 >times that I have uploaded a package with open bugs because I forgot to 
 >check the BTS before uploading because I was thinking about something 
 >else. I will doubtless do the same thing with Salsa MRs as well. 
 > 
 >It's not personal! And people taking it personally or thinking that it's 
 >some sort of political statement or intentional snub are reading hostile 
 >emotions into something that's simply due to being human. 
 > 
 Very much this! 
  
 This has happened to me in the past despite using DDPO and tracker.d.o 
 regularly. Yes, DDPO shows open MRs, but it is incredibily easy to miss, 
 especially if you happen to be involved in more than a handful of 
 packages. 
  
 In fact, I literally did "Ctrl+F !1" on my DDPO page on a hunch just 
 now, and stumbled upon a pytest MR which has been sitting in Salsa for 
 over a month and has become obsolete two days ago. 
  
 I've seen someone suggest elsewhere in this thread to add an Action Item 
 to tracker.d.o, and I agree this would very much improve MR visibility. 
 Still, I'm going to mess up at times (I have "ignored" Multi-Arch hints 
 more than once already). 
  
  
 Cheers 
 Timo 
  
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