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 From: peterbenyk@mts.net 
  
 Can an English speaking person send their children to English schools. 
 I know the answer to that one 
 Can a nurse who is bilingual but doesn't write good french work in an 
 English hospital? 
 That is the crux  of the problem-too many ignorant people there that don't 
 realize how oppresive they are and they step all over the fundamental rights 
 of people. 
  
  
 "Bill"  wrote in message 
 news:41EC5DD6.B6DDB80A@sympatico.ca... 
 > 
 > 
 > mot elbirret wrote: 
 > 
 >> "Bill"  wrote in message 
 >> news:41EC3ACC.F6B0BE69@sympatico.ca... 
 >> > 
 >> > 
 >> > mot elbirret wrote: 
 >> > 
 >> >> "Bill"  wrote in message 
 >> >> news:41EC3629.BD76AE43@sympatico.ca... 
 >> >> > 
 >> >> > 
 >> >> > mot elbirret wrote: 
 >> >> > 
 >> >> >> "Peter Benyk"  wrote in message 
 >> >> >> news:ItWGd.12789$Ka6.89152@news1.mts.net... 
 >> >> >> > You just demonstrated your ignorance for everyone to see which 
 >> >> >> > was 
 >> >> >> > my 
 >> >> >> > point from the start that you are ignorant about bilingualism as 
 >> >> >> > are 
 >> >> >> > a 
 >> >> >> > lot 
 >> >> >> > of people. 
 >> >> >> > Manitoba is not officially bilingual. 
 >> >> >> > Quebec is supposed to be bilingual but you certainly can't tell 
 >> >> >> > from 
 >> >> >> > their 
 >> >> >> > treatment of English speaking Canadians there. 
 >> >> >> 
 >> >> >> speaking of ignorance... 
 >> >> >> 
 >> >> >> As an english Canadian in Quebec let me tell you we are treated 
 >> >> >> just 
 >> >> >> fine. 
 >> >> >> 
 >> >> >> thanks for asking. 
 >> >> > 
 >> >> > Have any of the Quebec cities passed bilingual policies that mandate 
 >> >> > all 
 >> >> > their 
 >> >> > supervisors to be bilingual in order that staff members man work in 
 >> >> > either 
 >> >> > official language, similar to what is being done in the city of 
 >> >> > Ottawa? 
 >> >> 
 >> >> Bill, he implied we were badly treated here in Quebec. 
 >> >> 
 >> >> He's wrong. 
 >> >> 
 >> >> That's really the only part of his post i'm interested in. 
 >> >> 
 >> >> You can fight about official bilinguilism all you wish, but anglos 
 >> >> aren't 
 >> >> badly treated in here. 
 >> > 
 >> > Do you have Ontario tags on your car? I guess not, so you 
 >> > would not notice that their cops will pick an Ontario car out 
 >> > of a string of quebec cars all traveling at the same speed 
 >> > and pull the ontario guy over. 
 >> 
 >> Are we talking about how Ontarians are treated here? 
 > 
 > No not at all! 
 > 
 >> 
 >> 
 >> Perhaps ones with chips on their shoulers get mistreated. 
 > 
 > Perhaps, and perhaps they are just good people that are smart enough to 
 > understand what their rights are and have the courage to demand their 
 > rights, do 
 > have a difficult time.  The wimps probably see nothing wrong with 
 > anything. 
 > 
 >> 
 >> 
 >> But you expect people who live in Quebec to have Ontario plates 
 >> apparently.. 
 >> so maybe this is how "reasonable" people such as yourself are treated. 
 > 
 > There was no need of that statement. I corrected myself by saying "I guess 
 > not" 
 > and you can read. The point I was making was that, of course you would not 
 > be 
 > treated any different, if no one knows you are different. If you have 
 > Quebec 
 > tags and you speak and dress like a Quebecois then they cannot treat you 
 > different because they don't know you are different. You simply appear to 
 > the 
 > asshole Quebec cops like any Quebecois so they do not pull you out of a 
 > string 
 > of cars. They wait for the Ontario tagged car and ticket the guy they 
 > think is 
 > anglo. 
 > 
 >> 
 >> > 
 >> > Did you notice that your language had to be printed in a 
 >> > submissive way on all signs? 
 >> 
 >> It's a language. nothing more, nothing else. It's a way of communicating. 
 >> It's not "submissive". One of my dogs is "submissive" 
 > 
 > If you say it's not submissive then fine. You are a nice and submissive 
 > guy. You 
 > don't mind submitting to having your language printed in a way that is 
 > subservient / lesser / smaller then french in Quebec. Perhaps you like 
 > having 
 > your language treated in such a manor. I will tell you that your  french 
 > friends 
 > don't put up with it. The don't even like their language being printed 
 > equal in 
 > size or prominence with the other official language in Canada. They are so 
 > un-submissive that they want their language printed larger and more 
 > prominent 
 > and even pass racist laws to have it their way. 
 > 
 > 
 > 
 >> 
 >> 
 >> bigots like you on both sides turn it into a reason to hate. end of story 
 > 
 > Hey hey! What's all this bigot stuff? How very convenient for you to sit 
 > on your 
 > throne and declare anyone who dar disagree with you a bigot. 
 > 
 >> 
 >> > 
 >> > Have any of the Quebec cities passed bilingual policies 
 >> > that mandate all  their supervisors to be bilingual in order 
 >> > that staff members man work in either official language. 
 >> 
 >> What does that have to do with the way Anglos are treated in Quebec? 
 > 
 > Well if you live and work in a Quebec city You might want the freedom to 
 > work 
 > for the city in your own language and you might want your supervisor to be 
 > able 
 > to speak to you in your own language.  I can assure you that the french 
 > want all 
 > that as a minimum, and are trying hard to make it happen wherever they can 
 > for 
 > themselves. Of course if you are a submissive type and you do not mind not 
 > receiving the treatment that all your french friends want and are 
 > demanding, 
 > then it's ok with me. Just try not to set to pathetic an example for your 
 > decedents to have to follow. 
 > 
 >> Is 
 >> english your first language? 
 > 
 > What has that (Lets see how did you put that.) to do with how badly you 
 > are 
 > treated there in Quebec? 
 > 
 >> 
 >> > 
 >> > Do the cities bother to print notices in english so that you 
 >> > as a tax payer knows what's going on. 
 >> 
 >> Mine does, again, it's a language. I dare say no one has not found a 
 >> hospital 
 > 
 > Well that's good, a lot of the taxpayers around Hull don't get much in the 
 > way 
 > of service announcements in English. 
 > 
 > 
 >> 
 >> > 
 >> > If none of the above indignities don't bother you then 
 >> > perhaps you are not as Anglo as you profess, either 
 >> > that or we are going way to far out of our way to make 
 >> > life reasonable for the French in Ontario. 
 >> > 
 >> 
 >> Now i'm not english? 
 > 
 > Bill 101 was declared racist and is law only because your french friends 
 > employed the not with standing clause to make themselves feel superior to 
 > other 
 > Canadians. I cannot see how any anglo worth his salt would condone such 
 > action 
 > and look the other way. 
 > 
 >> 
 >> 
 >> There's no indignity to understanding I live among people who speak a 
 >> different language. When most of the population speaks french, it's 
 >> reasonable to have to learn some french to get by. 
 > 
  
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