HI Nancy,   
      
   On Sun 2011-Dec-25 18:57, Nancy Backus (1:18/200) wrote to Richard Webb:   
      
    RW>> That same cousin and I put a tobogan through the ice on a creek   
    RW>> one fine Saturday afternoon when we were both teenagers .   
      
    RW> Thing is I thought all was copacetic, I used to ride a trail up   
    RW> through there on a motorcycle, but should have known there was a   
    RW> good reason why my buddy who lived on the property didn't recommend   
    RW> that hill for sledding, but instead chose the other hill that was   
    RW> just as long, but a much more gradual slope.    
      
   NB> So one would stop short of the creek instead of shooting in... ;)    
      
   Yep, and you have a bit better control of the trail bike   
   i.e. small motorcycle properly outfitted, and could make the turn at the   
   bottom. I never even thought about that little   
   stream, as sometimes it would be devoid of any water when   
   we'd ride trails down through there, which we didn't do   
   often unless we were leaving the property and going   
   somewhere on motorcycles we shouldn't be going because we'd   
   be on public roads sans proper credentials, verboten by our   
   parents of course . Most times we'd take that way I'd be riding behind him   
   on his larger motorcycle    
      
    NB>> Pumping gas always does seem to make the weather seem worse...   
    NB>> breezes feel like gales, and always seems to feel at least 10   
    NB>> degrees colder than it felt when one went out to the car...    
      
    RW> Yep especially this place, exposed to east and wes when at   
    RW> the pumps. Our usual gas spot out this waysets up so that   
    RW> vehicles and the building block that cold wind a little bit.   
      
   NB> The place I usually go to is exposed north and south, but it still   
   NB> doesn't seem to block much. Part of the problem is that things are   
   NB> pretty open there, so the wind has a chance to pick up...   
      
   Yep, same here. Our usual spot out here, pump islands to   
   east and west, building in between, and we usually try to   
   hit an outside of the pumps spot because there's less chance we'll bump   
   antenna(s) against the canopy. I'm sorta picky   
   about the capacitive hats on my mobile antennas.   
      
    RW> Their clerk even recognizes counterfeit money. Yeah I know, somebody   
    RW> passed one that made its way to us, and I not even paying attention   
    RW> went to use it to pay for some gas there one day about a eyar ago.   
      
   NB> More and more places/clerks are being trained to spot it... But a   
   NB> lot of the spotting is visual, so I can see where you might not have   
   NB> caught it, if they'd used the linen paper...   
      
   Yeah, she was surprised I didn't spot this one though, she   
   piotned out the paper, and when I got a good feel of it I   
   said "that ain't right." Kathy had handed it to me right   
   before i went in to pay then pump when they turned me on,   
   that's the other reason old blind man likes that place, old   
   school pumps, no touch screen funkiness, insert nozzle, flip up rest for said   
   nozzle, squeeze handle .   
      
    RW> Yep, strange weather, which lends quite a bit of weight to the   
    RW> warnings the scientists are giving us on climate imho. We may   
    RW> not like some of the political voices who've lent their to the   
    RW> efforts, but these folks make some serious sense.   
      
   NB> Maybe... On the other hand, there are also weather cycles that   
   NB> usually get forgotten in the rhetoric. Just takes a couple of odd   
   NB> ones to show up at the same time to make for very strange weather...   
      
   There's that, but what convinces me a great deal more is   
   just the shape of the Greenland glaciers, Antarctica, and   
   ice and peat bog cores they've done, as well as analysis of   
   growth rings on trees. Like it or not, as we interact with   
   our environment we are bound to change it, and imho the   
   jury's still out on longterm ramifications of our great   
   technological leaps in a very short period of time   
   comparatively. It's all, as my military friends say,   
   "above my pay grade" They don't ask the guy planting the   
   microphones and running the cables at the press conference   
   what his opinion is . Heck if its for television they   
   don't care if he gets it sounding good even .   
      
    RW> We've settled into normal wx pattern for time of year, at least so   
    RW> far, lots of run, of course, but as I said, rather get it this way   
    RW> then deluges with tornadoes in the spring as happened last year.   
      
   NB> I'd just as soon have the precipitation spread out somewhat, too...    
   Yep, just works better.   
   NB> Your birthday is close to Christmas, too..? I was supposed to   
   NB> arrive a little before Christmas, and ended up coming a week   
   NB> later... My son was due on Christmas, but waited till the 4th... :)   
      
   YEp, my dad's i 12/31.   
      
    RW> Sent the same thing to my grandson, guess he used his to help   
    RW> do a couple of things for somebody else who in turn kicked in   
    RW> equivalent $$$ to help him put new rubber under his car, which   
    RW> makes em feel better since he's driving about 100 miles every   
    RW> other weekend to go visit his mom.   
      
   NB> It all works out... ;)   
      
   YEp, that it does.   
      
    RW> I don't mind this stuff though, other than the occasional wet head   
    RW> going to and fro I'll take it, my antennas stay up, the tree limbs   
    RW> stay *on* the trees and the ground gets the moisture it needs.    
      
   NB> Light dry snow doesn't wreak much havoc either... Especially if   
   NB> it stays mostly in the air... ;)   
      
   Yep, doesn't hurt, it's that wet heavy stuff, and ice that   
   are the killers, and the icing is the biggest bugaboo around here for winter   
   wx.   
      
    RW> It can even do the freeze Christmas day if it's really got to, I'm   
    RW> not going anywhere, I'll do all my pre-Christmas errands today   
    RW> anyway and call it even.    
      
   NB> We got just a dusting of snow overnight for Christmas Eve, some of   
   NB> which (in the shade mostly) was still around this morning... but   
   NB> otherwise it isn't even all that cold today, or wet... When we woke   
   NB> up, things were rather overcast and gray, but the sun came out, so I   
   NB> guess it was a green Christmas... :)   
      
   Yep, was here, green, with sunshine. Kathy watched dvd   
   stuff and I worked on a couple long writing projects, called family and   
   friends.   
      
      
   Regards,   
    Richard   
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