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   //Hello Michiel,//   
      
   on *10.03.22* at *20:40:47* You wrote in Area *WINPOINT*   
   to *Tim Schattkowsky* about *"WinPoint Version 404 IPV5"*.   
      
    TS>> Fully agree. However, since still the clients connects to the host, the   
    TS>> debate becomes pointless for DS-Lite as in that case the host should   
    TS>> only present an IPv6 address. So there is nothing to choose here anyway.   
      
    MvdV> In the case of DS-Lite the host can add the IPv4 adress of a 4 to 6   
    MvdV> proxy like feste-ip.net to make it possible for an IPv4 only client to   
    MvdV> connect. I have added such a proxy just in case my provider decides to   
    MvdV> put me on DS-Lite.    
      
   Nice workaround and indeed worse than the direct connection. However, I   
   suppose this uses a different hostname than the IPv6 address of the same node   
   and thus again is no case where the client can choose?    
      
    MvdV> Also there are a few quircks in the Fidonet nodelist. Check out   
    MvdV> 1:134/102 and 1:134/302. They present a link local IPv4 address that   
    MvdV> can not be connected with.   
      
   Ouch. Why?   
      
    MvdV> One should not assume that a node that is on a DS_Lite connection never   
    MvdV> presents an IPv4 address in addition to IPv6 address(es)   
      
   For the same host name?   
      
    TS>> On the other hand, I still cannot see any drawbacks of using IPv4 to   
    TS>> connect a host that supports both IPv4 and IPv6. To put it differently:   
    TS>> there is no actual advantage in using IPv6 (other than feeling cool), so   
    TS>> whats wrong with using IPv4 that may actually still have compatibility.   
    TS>> Once the connection is established its all the same anyway.   
      
    MvdV> Being connectable by both IPv4 and IPv6 is not the ultimate goal of the   
    MvdV> IPv4 to IPv6 transition. It does not end when everyone has IPv6. The   
    MvdV> next step will be to get rid of IPv4. That will take a while but that   
    MvdV> is where we are going. Anyone still being on IPv4 only or anyone giving   
    MvdV> the impression of being IPv4 only is in the way of reaching that   
    MvdV> ultimate goal. To speed up the transition anyone capable of IPv6 should   
    MvdV> make IP6 connections for just this reason alone.   
      
   All true, but than again there will simply be no IPv4 address to choose ;)   
      
   Regards,   
   Tim   
      
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