MSGID: 2:221/360.0 5e1aa3c0   
   REPLY: 1:229/426 9F3214AC   
   PID: JamNNTPd/OS2 1.3 20191227   
   TID: GE/2 1.2   
   CHRS: IBMPC 2   
   TZUTC: 0200   
   On 1/10/2020 2:08 AM, between "Nick Andre : August Abolins":   
      
    AA>> My first Thinkpad, T40p, developed a common screen   
    AA>> fade/blank problem.. Then, it ran quite well until the   
    AA>> fan started to make noise, and sometimes refuse to boot   
      
    NA> Yup, I've seen those problems before. The inverter is   
    NA> usually the problem, then the VGA ribbon cable. The fan   
    NA> problems I've seen were always rare but caked with cigarette   
    NA> smoke or dust. Sometimes the fan would need to be replaced   
    NA> because the bearings would be worn.   
      
   The T40 screen is not as bright as on the T60 or even the new T540p, but   
      the plan is to retire it and use it as a Spotify server for the   
   house. I could always control it from the network with another instance   
   of Spotify, VNC, or even an external monitor if I must. So the laptop   
   screen is not critical.  Other then the fan problem (and it is most   
   likely the bearings based on the noise) at startup, it still works great   
   - and the fan doesn't need to run all the time.   
      
      
    NA> I didn't have a chance to elaborate on what I meant by the   
    NA> cheapo-models...   
      
    NA> So what happens is the customer who owns the cheap model   
    NA> opens/closes from the "side" of the screen eventually   
    NA> breaking or wearing out the hinge on one side.   
      
   Heheheh.. I see people with the widescreens doing exactly that. It is   
   sad to see the lids not lay perfectly flat on close.   
      
   My el cheapo G530 (albiet I don't consider $650 a cheap laptop for year   
   2009) seems to have a fairly rigid construction all round.   
      
      
    NA> ...I always hibernate and the SSD is lightning fast.   
    NA> I *could* put an SSD into the old Fidonet Thinkpad, but the   
    NA> amount of heavy disk-access from tossing mail would likely   
    NA> wear it out quicker I think.   
      
   There is the whole matter of TRIM with SSD to maximize life and wear.   
   Only Windows 7 and up implements it by default.  Linux, depends.   
      
      
    AA>> I have already sourced Win7pro, and almost convinced to   
    AA>> just go for it. But I'll finish the darn Win10 setup..   
      
    NA> Well like Kurt said, Windows 10 unfortunately is here to   
    NA> stay and Windows 7 is on its way out for support. I'm   
    NA> sticking with 7 however. I rarely do anything on my T440P   
    NA> other than Remote Desktop and web surfing. Its already   
    NA> pretty locked-down and fully backed-up to a disk image, just   
    NA> in case.   
      
   There is the old adage: "If it ain't broke.."   
      
   I am still debating whether I should accept the Win10 on the T540p or   
   send it back. There is one sticky/noisy key on the keyboard that is   
   probably going to help me make up my mind and request an RMA.   
      
   Win10 will introduce its own security problems and the constant feed of   
   security updates.  I could always downgrade to Win10 later! LOL   
      
   About a month ago, I actually finished reinstalling Win7 on someone's   
   poorly matched pc that was using Win10. By poorly matched, I say not   
   enough ram, and the "old" pc was already maximized.  Win7 took several   
   hours to finish all the backlist of updates. That was a painful wait.   
   But after that, Win7 was a snappier performer than Win10 ever was on   
   that laptop.   
      
   --- Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228)   
    * Origin: nntp://rbb.fidonet.fi - Lake Ylo - Finland (2:221/360.0)   
   SEEN-BY: 1/123 19/10 90/1 103/705 154/10 203/0 221/0 1 6 360 227/114   
   SEEN-BY: 229/426 452 1014 240/5832 249/206 317 400 280/464 5003 292/854   
   SEEN-BY: 317/3 322/757 342/200 396/45 423/81 120 633/280 712/848 770/1   
   PATH: 221/360 1 280/464 229/426