01-04-15 09:00 Holger Granholm wrote to Ed Vance about Re: Older.   
      
    HG> @MSGID: <54AA7814.1203.windowsb@capcity2.synchro.net>   
    HG> In a message dated 01-02-15, Ed Vance said to Holger Granholm:   
      
    HG> In a message dated 12-20-14, Ed Vance said to Holger Granholm:   
      
    HG> GM Ed,   
   Howdy! Holger,   
      
    HG> Please note the date above!!!  Again it took you two weeks to   
    HG> reply to a message!   
      
   I'm slowly catching up in my BBS message reading.   
      
   I still am about one week behind in reading the messages in all of the   
   echos that come in my .QWK packet when I grab one.   
      
   I was alternating between taking time to reading some BBS messages and   
   then taking some time to read what has came in my Email In-box.   
      
   I've noticed when I am reading Emails from some of the Newsletters that   
   I subscribe to that I've been taking a lot of time clicking on Links to   
   read articles or watch Videos and that was taking a lot of my computer   
   time, so I decided to stop reading any Emails and stick with reading   
   the BBS messages until I'm caught up to date, if I ever get there.   
      
   The last Email I have read is dated January 2, 2015 and I will get back   
   to reading them after the BBS messages are all read and replied to.   
      
    EV> The Time this one is being written is 12:12 A.M. EST on 12-20-2014 .   
      
    HG> The time stamp of this message as shown in the header is   
    HG> 12-20-14 00:13. That means probably that the shown date/time   
    HG> may be in UTC (GMT) that is often the time translated to by the   
    HG> receiving host.   
      
    EV> No it isn't UTC, the 00:13 You saw in the message header is the   
    EV> shorter way of writing 12:13 A.M. EST.   
      
    HG> Why don't you use UTC? Since I started using ham radio 1951 I   
    HG> have used UTC (GMT was it named then).   
      
   I looked on a map to see what Time Zone You were in and I'd say it's   
   UTC+2, here I am in UTC-5.   
      
   I've been thinking about You using UTC and figured it is almost like   
   You setting the Clocks to Daylight Savings Time, since Your QTH is   
   two hours ahead of UTC. Remember I said 'Almost Like'.   
      
   In 1958 Al Hall K4CSH re-started the Kentucky Novice Net on 3.720 Mc/s   
   because he found a lot of new Novices using that frequency where the   
   Net (KNN) used to operate on.   
      
   That was probably due to a Local Radio TV Wholesale Parts Store,   
   P.I. Burks, still having crystals for that frequency from back when the   
   KNN was active before my time.   
      
   He helped us young ones to learn how to handle Message Traffic and even   
   later on had a different Novice as Net Control for each day.   
   I was the Net Control Station for one day each week.   
      
   That Net helped us get our CW speed up to where we would be able to   
   pass the test for the General Licence before our one year non-renewable   
   Novice License expired.   
      
   The KNN met at 4PM Eastern Time, or 2100 Hours UTC.   
      
   After I finished my Navy Enlistment and returned home most of the Hams   
   who were on the KNN when we were Novices were logging in to the KYN   
   Kentucky CW Net on 3.600 Mc/s. and I got active on the KYN too!   
      
   Back then I was a member of the A.R.R.L. and got appointed as a ORS   
   Official Relay Station between 9RN, the Ninth Region Net and KYN.   
   And enjoyed handling traffic.   
      
   IIRC 9RN started around 6PM and the KYN at 7PM Eastern Time, in the   
   Summertime 9RN was 6PM Eastern Daylight Savings Time (EDT) and KYN was   
   at 7PM EDT, always the same local clock time of day.   
      
   I just never used UTC if hardly ever at all after I left the Service.   
   Local Time is what I've always been confortable with and what works for   
   You  being in a Time Zone very close to UTC doesn't work for me.   
      
    HG> When digital arm watches became available I am using one set to   
    HG> 24h display. All my clocks, except a couple of oldies are   
    HG> running 24h digital.   
      
    HG> No more AM or PM here.   
      
   I'm confortable with either way of reading the time.   
      
   At work when we started entering some times on a sheet for each Vessel   
   that called to use the Lock we were told to enter it in 24 hour time,   
   Local Time not UTC for each entry on the sheet.   
      
   Some of the people at work never had been in the Military and was   
   confused about 24 hour time so a 12 hour Analog Clock that had the   
   hours after 1259 had the numbers printed by each digit on the clock.   
      
   There was a small 13 near the number One to help those folks get their   
   entries for the vessel lockage right.   
      
    HG> Please note that this reply is written the same morning that   
    HG> your mail arrived here in my incoming mail.   
      
   You're a better man than I Gunga Dinn.   
   73 es tks for trying to help this old guy out.   
      
   ... Lots of echos to cover and only one of me! - Paul Hayton   
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