On Tue, 12 Aug 2014, BOB KLAHN wrote to HOLGER GRANHOLM:   
      
    HG> If there will be any updates to Windows. M$ seems to be in   
    HG> big trouble since they are firing up to 18000 workers world   
    HG> wide.   
      
    BK>  Well, let's see. I just spent a lot of time restoring a computer    
    BK> for my daughter, one the uses Vista. Once more I hate Vista.    
      
    BK>  Now I'm hearing all sorts of bad things about Windows 8.   
      
   have you heard, yet, that W8 doesn't actually shut down when you shut it down   
   and power the machine off? ;)   
      
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