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   WKITTY42 to PSI-JACK   
   Re: NetMail specific opti   
   31 Jan 19 19:20:24   
   
   On 09/07/14, Psi-Jack said the following...   
       
    Ps> In there has Netmail Crash, Netmail Hold, and Netmail Killsent. Now, I   
    Ps> agree with only 2 of these being there, Netmail Hold, and Netmail   
    Ps> Killsent. but Crash, should NEVER be globally enabled because it's not   
    Ps> likely to be able to get to its destination unless Mystic itself is able   
    Ps> to directly, and securely establish a connection to the destination node   
    Ps> it's intended for.   
      
   i allow some of my users to crash netmails to remote systems... yes, even   
   systems that i do not have a secure password with... the crash option is a   
   sysop selectable choice and i see no problems with it... if users can choose   
   it is another option that the sysop can decide on...   
      
    Ps> Netmail flags like this would actually be better in actual message editor   
    Ps> options to be able to set certain features.  In fact, just an example   
    Ps> that Janis provided me with for BBBS, which Mystic could still do better   
    Ps> with the editor menu options more dynamically:   
      
   let's not forget that BBBS is a completely different animal... keep reading...   
      
    Ps> In BBBS's example though, when setting the subject, one could use various   
    Ps> subject lines, the first character (or first few characters, I guess   
    Ps> depending on if it supports multiple flags or not), would be something   
    Ps> like:   
      
   BBBS is the /only/ system that i'm aware of that allows choices like this via   
   the subject line... pretty much every other system uses the normal message   
   status bits and the operator's choice if users can set these bits or not...   
      
    Ps> This could be done in Mystic's Menu to set Crash, or if you set crash   
    Ps> and then set hold, remove crash and set hold. Attach of course would let   
    Ps> you upload a file that would be attached to the specific message. I   
    Ps> don't recall what file request would be used for though.   
      
   crash/hold has a specific meaning in the BSO world... it is how the old style   
   binkleyterm compatible software handles the DIRect message status bit...   
      
   the filre request bit is set when a FREQ is created... the subject line   
   contains the name of the file being requested as well as an possible password   
   necessary to access the file... one file may be requested per message... if   
   multiple files are being requested in one session, then the system should   
   create multiple netmails with the FREQ bit set and the name of the file in the   
   subject line with the password if needed...   
      
    Ps> This, on a per-message basis, with ACS restrictions to be able to set   
    Ps> attach, crash, hold, and possibly file request messages, all   
    Ps> specifically and only on any Message Base where type is NetMail. There   
    Ps> was one missing one I think from Janis's example, which is Direct, which   
    Ps> Crash itself simply means, Direct AND Now, rather than just Direct when   
    Ps> the system does it's normal polls.   
      
   ummm, no... CRAsh means when the events allow... IMMediate means now regardless   
   of the event settings... there's also routing to deal with... DIRect overrides   
   routing... but then BSO has some limitations and these are right up in the   
   midst of those limitations...   
      
    Ps> Anyway, I hope to see something like this fixed, because the global   
    Ps> option for Netmail Crash is generally a horrendously bad idea. :)   
      
   really? if the sysop has no problems with the netmail going out right now if   
   the current event allows for it?   
      
   oh wait... mystic doesn't (yet??) allow for mailer events which qualify mail   
   to be sent or not...   
      
   )   
      
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