05-01-15 11:09 Holger Granholm wrote to Ed Vance about Re: film camera   
      
    HG> @MSGID: <55474C83.13890.windowsa@capcity2.synchro.net>   
    HG> In a message dated 04-30-15, Ed Vance said to Holger Granholm:   
      
    HG> GM Ed,   
   Howdy! Holger,   
   -snip-   
    EV> I didn't notice the Camera Brand that I looked at wasn't a regular   
    EV> Kino Camera, I thought all Kino Cameras worked with a crank on the   
    EV> side to take images one after the other as the crank was turned.   
    EV> My mistake in not reSearching further about it.   
      
   I just looked in Firefox' History for the website where I saw a   
   'Kino' camera, it was   
      
   shop.lomography.com/us/lomokino   
      
   if you want to take a look at what I saw.   
      
   Another website I looked at was   
      
   microsites.lomography.com/lomokino/mubi/   
      
   The websites says the camera is a 35MM Movie Camera, and I just thought   
   Your camera was one like that one.   
      
    HG> Please note that "in old times" the 8 and 16 mm cinema cameras   
    HG> where not running with electrical motors but a spring driven   
    HG> motor and therefore the spring that fed the motor had to be   
    HG> wound up with a crank or some other mechanical device.   
      
   I remember those times too.   
   My dad had a 8MM camera with the crank on the side to wind the spring.   
   This was before the Super 8 cameras were made ttbomk.   
      
    EV> In the 1960's Kodak made a Ektachrome film with a higher speed   
    EV> (ASA), so I bought a roll of it to try out.   
      
    HG> AFAIR I have always been able to buy any film with different   
    HG> sensitivity   
      
   I remember TRI-X and Panatomic-X 35MM B&W films having higher   
   light sensitivity for sale in the mid-1950s.   
      
   I'm not sure when Ektachrome film came to the stores.   
   A young friend had a 127 camera that he used Ektachrome film in, and I   
   think that is how I learned about it having a faster speed than   
   Kodacolor negative film.   
      
   I had a 620 camera back then and can't remember if Ektachrome came in   
   the 620 size or not, I don't think so best as I can recall.   
      
   When I started using a 35MM Camera the Color Slide film available   
   from Kodak was Kodachrome ASA 10, and Ektachrome ASA 32.   
   I liked the idea of Ektachrome being 3 times as fast as Kodachrome   
   so I started using it.    
   -snip-   
    HG> Most cameras, except the cheapest ones, can be adjusted to   
    HG> different speeds and apertures to compensate for different   
    HG> light situations.   
      
   My Argus C3 iirc slowest shutter speed was 1/10 Second and f3.5 was the   
   widest opening with its 50MM lens.   
      
   I remember taking a snapshot in the late evening by leaning the square   
   side of the C3 against a Light Pole and taking a shot at the 1/10   
   setting and seeing a good image after the film was processed.   
      
    HG> Nowadays they do it automatically if you don't decide to do it   
    HG> manually.   
      
   Yes, and they will complain if they can't take the picture too.   
   -snip-   
    HG> Oh yes, I recall those projectors that were available to the   
    HG> public in "old time" amusement establishments. That must have   
    HG> been btwn 1940-50. You put in a dime (or whatever it was) and   
    HG> then you could turn a crank and enjoy a short movie sequence.   
      
    EV> I think/thought what I was looking at was a current model that was   
    EV> still being sold, instead of antique stuff.   
    EV> It didn't look anything like the big machines in the Penny Arcade at   
    EV> the amusement park that I dropped many pennies in during my youth.   
    EV> -snip-   
      
    HG> The cameras were much smaller that the projectors because the   
    HG> projectors used paper images of the pictures on the film. That   
    HG> was the oldi   
      
    EV> Now, my mind is trying to remember what size of image was on the   
    EV> reels of 35mm film which I put on the projectors when I was working   
    EV> as a Projectionist at a Movie Theater.   
      
    HG> Those images are/were the standard 35x24 mm size.   
      
   They were smaller than the 24X36 mm size a regular camera took.   
   I'll go to Wikipedia to see if I can find out and then continue this   
   reply.   
      
   Movie Film image was called Single Frame, the same size as my Pen EE-S   
   camera took.   
   Four Sprocket Holes was the length of those images.   
      
   On a regular 35MM snapshot camera it was Eight Sprocket Holes for the   
   24MM High by 36MM Wide image.   
      
   So the best guess I can give for the image on 35MM Movie/Cinama Film   
   would be 18MM High by a little less than 24MM wide due to the Optical   
   Sound Track between the image and the sprocket holes on one side.   
      
   I think it was around 1958? when Motion Picture Film had magnetic media   
   applied to the outside edges of the film, to carry Stereo sound.   
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