04-28-15 16:05 Holger Granholm wrote to Ed Vance about Re: film camera   
      
    HG> @MSGID: <5540B506.13875.windowsa@capcity2.synchro.net>   
    HG> In a message dated 04-22-15, Ed Vance said to Holger Granholm:   
      
    HG> Hi Ed,   
   Howdy! Holger,   
      
    HG> Please note that despite the above date your msg arrived here   
    HG> today.   
      
   Last night I was planning on answering this message after I answered   
   Daryl's but it was late and I turned the pc off before sending the .REP   
   packet.   
      
   So this morning I finally found the ROUNDTUIT to do it.   
   The Date/Time of those two messages will tell all.   
      
    EV> From what I learned of the Kino Camera You get 144 images on a   
    EV> 36 Exposure roll of 35mm Film.   
      
    HG> There's a difference here between Film (Cinema) and Kino   
    HG> camera. A Kino camera uses the same type of film (raw material)   
    HG> as a cinema camera. The difference is that the Kino type of   
    HG> camera takes still pictures and a Cinema camera makes running   
    HG> pictures of a sequence thereby a cinema.   
      
   I didn't notice the Camera Brand that I looked at wasn't a regular Kino   
   Camera, I thought all Kino Cameras worked with a crank on the side to   
   take images one after the other as the crank was turned.   
   My mistake in not reSearching further about it.   
      
    EV> I usually always purchased Etkachrome film that took 36 photos   
    EV> because I liked the Bluish Tone it had compared to the Yellowish   
    EV> Tone that Kodachrome film has.   
      
    HG> My farther was a fan of Agfa film material, probably because it   
    HG> had "softer" colours than Kodachrome for the diapositives he   
    HG> made.   
      
    HG> I have previously used Kodachrome but lately mostly Fuji film   
    HG> material.   
      
   When I was in Japan I bought a roll of Fuji B&W film.   
   I was afraid to buy their Color film because I didn't know where I   
   could get it processed, me being on a ship that wouldn't be in the area   
   later on.   
      
   I figured B&W could be processed by the Mail Order Company that I sent   
   my Color film to, and at least I would have some photos of the place   
   that I was at then.   
      
    EV> Plus Etkachrome was ASA(ISO?) 32 compared to ASA 10 for Kodachrome,   
    EV> I liked having the little extra light sensitivity, I think that is   
    EV> what the difference is.   
      
   In the 1960's Kodak made a Ektachrome film with a higher speed (ASA),   
   so I bought a roll of it to try out.   
      
   I took photos of Aircraft Launches and Landings one day and was worried   
   that the photos would be overexposed even while I had my camera set at   
   1/300 f/16 (the fastest shutter speed and narrowest iris opening for my   
   Argus C3 camera).   
      
   Those slides looked perfect when I received them back from the   
   processing lab I mailed them to. Boy was I glad to learn that I could   
   use that new faster film in Daylight.   
      
    HG> I don't recall having seen Ektachrome (note the spelling) but   
    HG> it may have slipped my mind since I've never used that   
    HG> material.   
      
   Thanks for the correction, those first two letters in Ektachrome being   
   meant to say "Eastman Kodak", I've been pronouncing it Et-ka-chrome for   
   so long I didn't realize I was making TYPOS, but You got my attention   
   that I was misspelling the film brand name.   
   I'll now have to try remembering the correct spelling, Thanks!   
      
    EV> The Kino Camera I looked at on the Internet would get 144 pictures   
    EV> on a 36 exposure roll, the images were 8.(something)mm X 24mm.   
    EV> That camera looked like it had a crank on the side to turn to make a   
    EV> picture a "Click At A Time", I was thinking it could be used to make   
    EV> a very short Movie if the crank was turned until the last exposure   
    EV> was taken on the roll.   
      
    HG> Oh yes, I recall those projectors that were available to the   
    HG> public in "old time" amusement establishments. That must have   
    HG> been btwn 1940-50. You put in a dime (or whatever it was) and   
    HG> then you could turn a crank and enjoy a short movie sequence.   
      
   I think/thought what I was looking at was a current model that was   
   still being sold, instead of antique stuff.   
   It didn't look anything like the big machines in the Penny Arcade at   
   the amusement park that I dropped many pennies in during my youth.   
   -snip-   
    EV> BTW, talking about 36 exposure rolls of Film:   
    EV> When I was in Japan I bought a Olympus Pen-EE S Camera that took   
    EV> "Single Frame" photos, 18mm X 24mm, and gave me 72 pictures on a 36   
    EV> exposure roll.   
      
    HG> Yeah, that is half the size of a normal handheld camera using   
    HG> the cinema type of film.   
      
   The camera used normal 35mm Roll Film, it just moved the film half the   
   distance since the hole where the image was placed on the film was half   
   the normal size.   
      
   Now, my mind is trying to remember what size of image was on the reels   
   of 35mm film which I put on the projectors when I was working as a   
   Projectionist at a Movie Theater.   
      
   I'm wanting to think the image was the same size as the Pen-EE S camera   
   made, but I'm not going  to stop writing this message and look on Wiki   
   to learn about it.   
   I'll do that after this packet is sent.   
      
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    HG> OK that's probably the reason for the delayed delivery.   
      
   The BBS that Mike has can be connected by Dial-Up, Telnet or the   
   Internet, three ways.   
      
   He showed me that I could use FTP instead of Telnet to get/put my   
   packet(s), since I had difficulty using Telnet for QWK, and the   
   Internet Portal didn't allow QWK handling, only Reading and Writing.    
      
   I noticed that Mike's Origin Line is showing his old address,   
   instead of the CAPCITY2.SBBS address.   
   I will tell him about that. Thanks for showing the Origin Line to me.   
   Your and Wilfred's replies are showing that old Origin Line, Thanks!,   
   I know Mike would want to get that corrected.   
      
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