204-13-15 09:47 Holger Granholm wrote to Ed Vance about Re: Solar eclipse   
      
    HG> @MSGID: <552D9038.13850.windowsa@capcity2.synchro.net>   
    HG> In a message dated 04-10-15, Ed Vance said to Holger Granholm:   
      
    HG> GM Ed,   
      
   GE Holger,   
      
    EV> There are a few echos in the packet before this echo and I (usually)   
    EV> will read messages in those echos, and when I get to a message that   
    EV> I want to Reply to, I do that and when I've read all of the messages   
    EV> in those echos I start reading this echo.   
      
    HG> I do always start reading at the top of the area listing,   
    HG> that's where the area for personal mail is. In my mind any   
    HG> personal mail is more important than anything else in other   
    HG> areas.   
      
   I used to do that, but one time (at least) I typed a Reply message   
   while in the Personal Mail section of the QWK Reader, and when I got to   
   reading messages in that echo I saw that someone else had written to   
   the person and had typed everything (and more) of what I had wrote   
   earlier, so now I just wait till I'm in the echo to respond to messages   
   to me.   
   I hate taking the time to write a lengthly message and seeing I wasted   
   my time doing it, and have to erase the first message and enter a   
   shorter version of what the topic under discussion was.   
      
    EV> I do that so when I want to save messages in this (or other) echos,   
    EV> they will be saved in the order they are in the list.   
      
    HG> Then I may skip some area of less interest to pick up later, if   
    HG> I have the time for it.   
      
   I sometimes skip some areas.   
   I never have went back to the DOVENET echo to read all those messages   
   yet.....   
      
    EV> I never heard of a "kino" camera, so before writing this reply I   
    EV> took a look to see what it was all about.   
      
    EV> The LomoKino Camera uses a 36 (Standard Frame Size for a Still   
    EV> Camera) Exposure Roll of 35mm Film.   
      
    HG> 36 mm film has always been used for cinema cameras/projectors   
    HG> until todays digital recordings.   
      
    HG> 16 mm film was used by news reporters allover the world and 8   
    HG> mm film was used for hobby use. 8 mm film actually was 16 mm   
    HG> film split length- wise or it could be used as is by turning   
    HG> the spool around and using the other side just like a   
    HG> C-cassette used for audio.   
      
   It's been a long time since I used my fathers 8mm movie camera, but   
   something about the size of the sprocket holes seemed to my mind (???)   
   that they were smaller holes than what 16mm film had.   
      
   I have a reel of 8mm film downstairs, and after writing this message   
   I will take a look see.   
   Please bear with me, I know I don't know it all and never will, but I   
   have been interested in Film Photography years ago.   
      
    HG> I still have a Paillard Bolex "double eight" film camera where   
    HG> the spool was turned around to use the other half of the 16 mm   
    HG> film.   
      
   I remember doing that with Dad's camera too.   
      
    EV> So we're both right about the number 36 except it didn't mean mm for   
    EV> Your Camera.   
      
    HG> Suit yourself but the Fuji Film box containing raw film says   
    HG> 24x36mm where the 24 mm is the "height" of the film and 36 mm   
    HG> the width.   
      
   I don't mean to be a pain, but the 36mm measurement is lengthwise on   
   the roll of film, not Sprocket to Sprocket width which is 24mm.   
      
   ._...   
      
   The sprocket holes are approx. 4mm apart.   
   1.5mm X 2.0mm is the size of the holes, as best as I can tell.   
      
   I don't have any 16mm film here but I will look and find out if 16mm   
   film and 8mm film have the same size sprocket holes.   
      
   I'm thinking that You probably are correct about 8mm film being 16mm   
   filn cut in half.   
   73   
      
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