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   Ed Vance to Wilfred van Velzen   
   Re: IP Address Changes-Wh   
   22 Feb 15 23:56:00   
   
   02-21-15 13:13 Wilfred van Velzen wrote to Ed Vance about Re: IP Address   
   Changes-Wh   
      
    WvV> @MSGID: <54E91049.13746.windowsa@capcity2.synchro.net>   
    WvV> Hi,   
   Howdy! Wilfred,   
      
    WvV> On 2015-02-20 23:35:00, Ed Vance wrote to All:   
    WvV>   about: "IP Address Changes-Why?":   
      
    EV> Usually this XP MCE SP3 pc   
      
    WvV> Hey! This is the Win95 area. Get out of here with your XP   
    WvV> questions! ;-)   
      
   , It was from reading messages in this FIDO echo from people who   
   bought XP and were very pleased with it that I decided to get a XP pc   
   around 2006.   
      
   Alan Zisman is the Moderator of this echo and has allowed many many Off   
   Topic messages here.   
   I don't know who the Moderator of the Windows echo is.   
      
   afaik neither Moderator posts Rules, Alan does step in when he feels it   
   necessary to comment about what someone wrote here.   
      
   I don't like being on the Bleeding Edge when I purchase anything.   
   When I know things are working good with the thing from reading good   
   reviews about it, then I decide if I want to spend money on one for   
   myself.   
      
   I got a used Acer Notebook with Windows 95 in 1998.   
   I was using a 486 with MS-DOS 5.0 and Windows 3.1 at the time I bought   
   it, but I got it to use as Win95 Training Wheels so I could learn about   
   what the others who used Win95 were talking about here in this echo.   
      
   I have jumped the gun a few times and got on the Bleeding Edge.   
      
   The first time was in the 1970's, someone I knew showed me his   
   HP RPN Calculator that his company paid $300.00 USD for him to use in   
   his work for them.   
   Olsen Electronics had a four function calculator with a square root key   
   and me not thinking calculators would go down much in price bought it   
   for $80.00 USD .   
      
   Two years later I was at my parents on CHRISTmas Day and learned that   
   my folks gave all the nieces and nephews a four function calculator   
   that had a square root key, so I asked and found out they paid under   
   $10.00 USD for a bunch of them.   DUH!   
      
   The other time was in the late 1990's when I bought a HP 4c Scanner for   
   a few pennies less than $1000.00 USD, thinking that those things   
   wouldn't drop down in price very soon.   
      
   A couple of years later I was at a friends house and noticed they had a   
   Scanner and learned they paid less than $300.00 USD for it.   
      
   DUH! AGAIN. Now All In Ones can be bought for under $60.00 USD.   
   -snip-   
    EV> I have been wandering through XP Help and Support pages to see if there   
    EV> was a way to always make the XP pc use the DOT One Hundred IP Address   
    EV> but all I could find was that I could fix the IP Address but Not To Do   
    EV> It because it was recommended to keep the DNS setting set to Automatic   
    EV> on the page I read about how to fix the IP Address.   
      
    WvV> I think this advice is wrong. If you run services on a pc, you   
    WvV> better set the IP configuration to static. Use an IP number   
    WvV> outside the DHCP range which apparently starts with 100 on your   
    WvV> router. So 192.168.1.10 could be a good candidate. The subnet   
    WvV> mask would be 255.255.255.0. The default gateway and Prefered   
    WvV> DNS server should be copied from your current configuration.   
    WvV> (You know where to look for those?)   
      
   I'm not too smart about Network things.   
   I don't even know if my computers are running 'services'.   
      
   Some time ago when I talked to an AT&T DSL Technician, I was told make   
   some changes to my DSL Modems settings, and start using a 'Bridge'   
   setting instead of the way it originally was set up.   
      
   I definately would call to talk to a DSL Technician before I would set   
   this XP pc with a fixed IP Address.   
      
   Knowing my pass failures I probably would mess my DSL Service up after   
   making the change.   
   But I do appreciate the instructions that You gave me. Thanks!   
      
    WvV> If you have made special adaptations to your routers/firewall   
    WvV> configuration to point to the .100 address, of course you have   
    WvV> to change those to the new IP address.   
      
   Afaik, the Bridge connection, and Fort Know Personal Firewall made by   
   NETGATE Technologies is all of the changes that I made.   
   I can't remember if I had the Router when I did those changes or not.   
      
   The first time I tried to look at the DSL Modem Logs after I made the   
   change to the Bridge connection, I learned that I couldn't look at the   
   Modem Logs anymore to see what I could learn from them.   
   But I've keep the Bridge setting because even though I know how to   
   press the Reset Button on the DSL Modem I'd be afraid I'd really get in   
   trouble and have to call and talk with another Technician to get things   
   straightened out.   
      
   Using Computers is a Hobby not a Profession, but there are Professionals   
   AND Hobbyist who read this echo and have helped me a bunch of times.   
      
    WvV> I don't know anything about the Wallwatcher and Getlog   
    WvV> programs, but maybe they also need to be told to use the new   
    WvV> address. Or maybe just reboot after the IP configuration   
    WvV> change, will fix this automagically?   
      
   Those programs read the Log on the Router and save those readings in   
   text files that I could look at to try to learn things, and see what   
   the Address of the traffic going through my router is about.   
      
   When the XP pc has the .100 IP Address they work fine, and I can even   
   turn on the Vista pc after I've started up Wallwatcher and Getlog on   
   the XP pc, and seeing the information in Wallwatcher about the Traffic   
   going from and coming to the .101 IP Address that the Vista pc has now.   
      
   It just seems to me that the programs don't want to work unless the   
   IP Address on the XP pc ends in .100 .   DUH!   
      
    WvV> Does this make any sense to you?   
      
   Thanks for the help.   
   I'll think it over, and most likely talk to a DSL Technician before   
   changing any network settings in Control Panel.   
      
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