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|    Ed Vance to Mike Luther    |
|    Re: UPS Clicking-Report    |
|    13 Jul 14 22:09:00    |
      07-12-14 15:43 Mike Luther wrote to Tom Walker about UPS Clicking-Report               ML> @MSGID: <53C26201.13031.windowsa@capcity2.synchro.net>        ML> @REPLY: <53C1B239.13030.windowsa@capcity2.synchro.net>       Howdy! Mike,       -snip-        ML> I've used nothing but APC -> Smart <- UPS equipment for years        ML> and years now. The reason is that you need to very carefully              My first UPS was made by APC, the store I got it from only carried APC       USPs, so I looked on the internet to see some remarks about them before       I got mine because I never heard of the Company b4.              A few days later I returned it in exchange for another one like it.       The second one failed me too, so I looked on the stores web site and       saw they also sold Tripp-Lite UPSs and had one sent to the store for me       to pick up.              It was a 180Watt UPS and I used it for a long while b4 it started       failing, so I learned Tripp-Lite had a program for getting a new UPS at       a reduced price for Owners of Tripp-Lite UPSs who needed to replace       their Out Of Warranty unit.              Some time later the second 180W UPS needed replacing so I had my store       get a 300W Tripp-Lite UPS for me.              The 300W unit has a 'replaceable battery' where the 180W units didn't.              I haven't seen the Replace Battery LED on mine light up yet...              It still goes to battery back up power a few times a week, and last       week, when it switched over I saw the lights in my room blink.       So I feel it is protecting my gear, but when that LED comes on telling       me it needs a new battery I'll get one for it.              I have had good experience with Tripp-Lite products.       I got one of their Isobar Outlet Strips a long time ago after seeing a       mock up of one in a Clear Plastic Case where the parts could be seen.              Years later I purchased a 15Amp 12Volt Power Supply (ps) because a new       Radio I got for Two Meter Amateur Radio needed more Current than the       4Amp ps I used on my older Radio.              I wrote Tripp-Lite and asked them for a Schematic Drawing for their ps       and they sent it to me in the mail.              Probably I could find that Schematic on their web site now, but I only       had Text Email from Juno when I asked them for a Schematic and couldn't       have done that then.       -snip-        ML> my case my hand designed and personally built KW CW amps that        ML> helped me be the only person ever in the history of ham radio        ML> to apply for a 300 country original ARRL DXCC award only on 40              What Tubes did You used in the Finals on that KW RF Amp?               ML> The key is that when you are really 'protecting' any AC        ML> equipment like all this, think a bit. Poof, power goes off!        ML> OK, your UPS has to generate and turn on AC power exactly at        ML> the same 60 or 50 hertz frequency that you normally use. Plus        ML> do it fast enough so there is no interruption for the critical        ML> equipment and service it is protecting. Slow forward now. OK,        ML> your normal power service comes back on. But wait! You        ML> ABSOLUTELY have to match the new 'normal' sine wave shape and        ML> frequency to your UPS service sine wave and frequency. Or        ML> BOOOOOOM, the two electrical sources will fight with each other        ML> and even blow up something like your whole equipment. And a        ML> simple RELAY can do this?? Not a chance. Your UPS absolutley        ML> has to move the emergency service wave form to the EXACT timing        ML> and shape of the replacement standard power source! That is        ML> exactly what a 'SMART' UPS does. So you don't blow up this or        ML> that which is plugged into it. This can get a lot bigger.              I worked at a woodworking shop in the 1960's and during the day shift       they burned Wood Dust and Chips in a Steam Boiler/Generator to supply       electricity to their building to run their machines on.              When day shift was about to end they transferred to City Power.              I've been in the Boiler Room and watched the operators switch over to       City Power, and they didn't use a Scope, they watched a Panel Meter to       see when everything was in 'Phase' and then changed to City Power and       shut down the Boiler before they left the building.              I was told when Louisville, Kentucky suffered the 1937 Flood that       company supplied A.C. Power to the South End of Louisville until the       local electric utility company got back on line.              I retired from a Lock and Dam and have used the Generators at both       sites.              At the Lock, when the Diesel Generator was being used, and the Lamp       on the Control Panel showed Line Power was restored AND the lamps for       the 440V 3 Phase Motors on the Hydraulic Pumps were off, I would swing       the A.C. Power Switch on the Panel from Generator Power to Line Power.              The Lights and Marine Radio and the 386 pc would come back on after I       had switch back to Line Power.              Probably the pc they use now would have to have the Power Button       pressed because it might not be on a UPS.              I don't know, maybe the powers that be have ordered UPS's for the pc's       where I retired from. ???              ... 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