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|    Mike Luther to Tom Walker    |
|    UPS Clicking-Report    |
|    12 Jul 14 15:43:06    |
      Something seems slightly missing in this discussion here, grin!              ML>BR>Mine doesn't click, it just beeps like mad when I lose power lol              ML> UPS == Uninterruptible Power Supply              ML>over-voltage...              ML>UPSes DO have relays in the       ML>for when they switch to their batteries... other UPSes choose to use       ML>solid-state relays for their switching... all of my        ML>APC UPSes have relays an       ML>always have had them...              I've used nothing but APC -> Smart <- UPS equipment for years and years now.       The reason is that you need to very carefully choose the 'Smart' version is       that remember your power line service is alternating current, AC, service. It       is sine wave service where, per Tesla's contribution to this stuff way, way       back, the voltage goes back and forth from positive to negative in a smooth       waveshape so that we all can use pig iron transformer operations for       everything from the monsters you see in the power substation yards down to       even tiny ones in, say, five watt short wave ham transmitters and receivers.       Or .. in my case my hand designed and personally built KW CW amps that helped       me be the only person ever in the history of ham radio to apply for a 300       country original ARRL DXCC award only on 40 meter telegraphy. The same band       and equipment I used to kill the original Russian Woodpecker OTH radar and get       it out of the ham bands for all us even EOC folks back in the mid-1970's.              The key is that when you are really 'protecting' any AC equipment like all       this, think a bit. Poof, power goes off! OK, your UPS has to generate and       turn on AC power exactly at the same 60 or 50 hertz frequency that you       normally use. Plus do it fast enough so there is no interruption for the       critical equipment and service it is protecting. Slow forward now. OK, your       normal power service comes back on. But wait! You ABSOLUTELY have to match       the new 'normal' sine wave shape and frequency to your UPS service sine wave       and frequency. Or BOOOOOOM, the two electrical sources will fight with each       other and even blow up something like your whole equipment. And a simple       RELAY can do this?? Not a chance. Your UPS absolutley has to move the       emergency service wave form to the EXACT timing and shape of the replacement       standard power source! That is exactly what a 'SMART' UPS does. So you don't       blow up this or that which is plugged into it. This can get a lot bigger.              A 'UPS' ain't at all what a backup or replaced or added electric generator is       for the or multiple power companies need is it? Absolutely necessary is a way       to perfectly match the phase and waveshape of any new generator AC power       source to the or a 'grid' line operation when it touches it! Because if you       don't, you can blow up the whole generator operation if you don't absolutely       match it to the souce line it is being attached to! Couple of interesting       little facts I know about such life. In the early 1950's when I was in the       8th and 9th grade here in school at College Station, Texas, besides the local       cops, the State police, and the Texas A&M cops, the campus cops that were KK's       to us, I also maintained the radio for Mr. Frank Brown's wrecker trucks. For       which he let me drive them even back in early high school here, grin! What I       did learn from him was that his father was one of the engineers for the Texas       Aggie electric power plant on the campus! They expanded the plant and put in       a new added major generator. But got the wires crossed on the oscilliscope to       use to change the rotation speed on the new generator to gently synchronize       it's phase to match the power line operation of the major operations. Perfect       match on the screen! They threw the switch to bridge it to the system!        BLAMMMMM! It blew the whole new generator off the concrete table and totally       ruined it! But wait! There's more!              My best friend at the time of my first degree from Texas A&M had a double       degree in electrical and mechanical engineering. His real to this day special       interest and capability is in hydraulic engineering. However, a decade or so       after he and I graduated in 1965, he went to work for a major power company       out in West Texas. He wasn't in charge of the particular expansion of the       generator service out there for all Abilene and so on, but was watching over a       completely existing generation plant when the new one was being added to the       grid. Guess what? Exactly the same thing happened out there in West Texas       that I had decades before learned about happened at Texas A&M College!! The       error completely blew up the new megawatt generator, blew the bolts apart and       hurled it off it's complete mounting pad. No, my friend Mike Clifford was       *NOT* involved at all in being responsible for any of this. However, as we       were both already in the 1970's VERY famillar with what a single atomic bomb       could do to the power grid and every copper wire connected electric system for       even the whole USA from one bomb and that even the solar flares could really       be worse, he made the decision to leave the electical industry and not ever be       involved in this or that phase error issue, if at all possible. Both of us       were even back then completely aware of the Carrington Event Solar Flare in       1869, two years after the the Golden Spike was driven here in the USA on the       railroads that joined the East and West Coast. Which burned up all of the       telegraph operations in the whole USA. Killed three Morse Code operaters that       were sending code and put some 23 more in hospitals when it hit! And where       the EMP wave hit the railroad rails as it arced from them to the ground where       this stuff goes, in six places it even set the wood cross ties on fire!              Yes I learned a LONG time ago to NEVER use a UPS that was not a SMART UPS and       further to NEVER use a UPS that did not have an internal pig iron power       transformer to really protect you from nasty power surges. Plus make sure       that when it bridged to the return of normal power. the phase was matched       between everything. Thank you SMART APC!              Mike Luther N117C at 1:117/100              ---        * Origin: BV HUB CLL(979)696-3600 (1:117/100)    |
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