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   James Kuyper to All   
   Re: The Doctors Name   
   20 May 13 08:48:50   
   
   From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho.moderated   
   From Address: jameskuyper@verizon.net   
   Subject: Re: The Doctors Name   
      
   On 05/18/2013 10:49 PM, T987654321 wrote:   
   > OoooK, is anyone honestly not completely confused?   
   >    
   > I Hurt supposed to be the last regen, or the before the first, or the not a   
   regen?????   
      
   It could be my own confusion, but it seems to me that The Doctor himself   
   firmly rejects the idea of describing Hurt's character as "The Doctor",   
   but the text on the final scene does precisely that.   
      
   The Doctor describes his adoption of "The Doctor", and his decision to   
   behave in a way that matches that description, as a reaction to what   
   Hurt's character did. This implies that Hurt's character preceded the   
   Doctor's first incarnation. If they are indeed the same person, that   
   implies that The Doctor's 11th incarnation is actually that person's   
   12th incarnation.   
      
   I've never read Lungburrow, but I've read about it at   
   . According to that novel, Time Lord Society   
   was founded by three entities known as Rassilon, Omega, and The Other.   
   It also says that no new Gallifreyans have been born since they were hit   
   by the Curse of Pythia, and they now reproduce by a mechanism call a   
   "Loom". It implies that The Doctor's first incarnation was the   
   re-Looming, 10 million years later, of The Other. Given how The Other's   
   partners turned out, I could easily imagine that The Other might have   
   done something that would make The Doctor feel guilty.   
      
   I don't consider the novels canonical, but it's possible that the TV   
   show is planning to use at least some of the ideas from that story.   
   There's now way to know until November.   
   --    
   James Kuyper   
      
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