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   solar penguin to All   
   Re: The way River Song won't be fixed   
   07 Sep 11 18:57:18   
   
   From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho.moderated   
   From Address: solar.penguin@gmail.com   
   Subject: Re: The way River Song won't be fixed   
      
   Ken Arromdee wrote:   
      
   > In article <71e7295a-cdd1-4729-b5f8-9269731a388e@a7g2000yqb.go   
   glegroups.com>,   
   > solar penguin   wrote:   
   > >And here's a third theory: the time police were just plain wrong when   
   > >they said the Doctor's death was a fixed point.   
   >   
   > Whoops, in my last message I forgot they were the ones who said that, so   
   > obviously Amy and Rory telling them wouldn't unfix it.  So replace the   
   > question with them telling Jack Harkness in 1938, or something.   
      
   Good question.  But in practice, since they obviously believe that the   
   event's fixed and that Jack won't be able to stop it without letting   
   loose the Reapers, they'll never bother telling him, so it doesn't   
   make any difference what would happen.   
      
   >   
   > But anyway, that line was obviously there as a piece of exposition   
   > specifically to tell the audience "since it's a fixed point, we can't get   
   > around it by changing history", and we're supposed to treat it as reliable,   
   > even though you are correct that there's no real reason to believe them.   
      
   IIRC in The Impossible Astronaut, we were also told specifically that   
   it was the real Doctor who died, not a duplicate or copy - but that   
   hasn't stopped fans ignoring that bit of exposition and speculating   
   that it was a Flesh duplicate instead.   
      
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