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|    HVYRAIN: Excessive Rainfall Discussion    |
|    22 Nov 25 20:05:40    |
      TZUTC: 0000       MSGID: 166936.weather@1:2320/105 2d89d9b8       PID: Synchronet 3.21a-Linux master/123f2d28a Jul 12 2025 GCC 12.2.0       TID: SBBSecho 3.28-Linux master/123f2d28a Jul 12 2025 GCC 12.2.0       BBSID: CAPCITY2       CHRS: ASCII 1       FORMAT: flowed       FOUS30 KWBC 222005       QPFERD              Excessive Rainfall Discussion       NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD       305 PM EST Sat Nov 22 2025              Day 1       Valid 16Z Sat Nov 22 2025 - 12Z Sun Nov 23 2025              ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS       OF SOUTHEAST ARIZONA INTO CENTRAL ARIZONA...              ...16z Update...              Introduced a Marginal Risk with the 16z update, as the latest 12z       CAMs support a lower-end, localized flash flood threat later today       with mostly clear skies and building insolation over portions of       southeast into central AZ. SB CAPE should climb to ~250 J/kg with       updrafts tending to initially favor higher terrain and points       north, as storm motions of 15-25 kts to the north to northeast are       expected within the mean flow. With precipitable water values       anticipated to build to around 0.8" (well above the 90th percentile       and more representative of September/October), a period of localized       1"+/hr rates are possible with small downdrafts and relatively       fast motions generally capping hourly totals around 0.5". Some       repeating and training of cells may locally support hourly totals       of 0.5"+ and short-term (2-3 hour) totals of 1.5-2.0" are possible.       This may result in a few localized instances of flash flooding       (mainly concentrated late in the period from 00z-09z).              Churchill                     Day 2       Valid 12Z Sun Nov 23 2025 - 12Z Mon Nov 24 2025              ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR MUCH OF CENTRAL       AND NORTHERN TEXAS INTO PORTIONS OF SOUTHERN OKLAHOMA...              ...20z Update...              Consensus QPF guidance has continued to focus on the western side       of the inherited Slight Risk, making the primary adjustment with       this update to shift both the MRGL and SLGT areas a bit west. The       upper-level system driving the expected rainfall (which is expected       mostly after 00z on Mon) continues to look less amplified and cut-       off, placing the area of concern closer to the base of the trough       and tilted the QPF axis a bit more west-to-east than previously.       While this may increase the risk locally for training convection,       the main axis is also now more solidly north of the bulk of the       Hill Country (particularly where heavy rainfall occurred earlier       this week) into much of the Big Country/Northwest TX. While the       rainfall axis still impinges on western portions of the Dallas-       Fort Worth metro, the best probabilities for 3" exceedance are       concentrated to the west of the populous areas (as well as north=20       of San Angelo proper). While this less populated region of Central/       Northwest TX within the south-central portion of the updated SLGT=20       risk has indications of 5"+ potential (per 40-km HREF 5" exceedance       probs of ~15%), this signal is being driven seemingly entirely by       one member (the FV3, which is generally one of the less reliable       members) with the bulk of the CAM guidance in good agreement       indicating 2-4" totals. Given that much of this QPF is also       expected in the last 6 hour period of the forecast, there is still       plenty of time to see if this FV3 run is an outlier or if more CAM       guidance comes into alignment with this heavier solution. This may       necessitate a future targeted upgrade to Moderate Risk (which is       also possible for San Angelo and/or the DFW metro areas, should the       QPF axis shift a bit south and/or east).=20              Churchill                     ...Previous Discussion...              The latest guidance continues to depict a southwest-northeast       orientated axis of heavy rain panning from the northern part of the       Hill Country to northeast Texas. General consensus suggests 1 to 3       inches however, the ECMWF is persistent on the higher end with       amounts 3 to 5+ inches and placed further south/southwest than       other solutions. This is somewhat concerning, as this brings the       forecast axis of QPF even more into alignment with areas that       realized heavy rainfall in prior days.              A Slight Risk remains in effect and seems appropriate given at       least three days of recovery from the previous heavy rainfall       event and uncertainty with regard to the amount of training and       resultant QPF.              Campbell/Churchill                     Day 3       Valid 12Z Mon Nov 24 2025 - 12Z Tue Nov 25 2025              ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR MUCH OF       ARKANSAS AND NORTH TEXAS INTO ADJACENT PORTIONS OF SOUTHEASTERN       OKLAHOMA, NORTHERN LOUISIANA, AND NORTHWEST MISSISSIPPI...              ...20z Update...              Organized convection is expected to be ongoing Monday morning=20       across a good portion of North TX and into southeastern OK and the       Ark-La-Tex, moving east across Arkansas and into the Mid-South       during the day. Confidence is highest in robust convection in the       vicinity of North TX early in the period, whereas solutions diverge       somewhat later in the day...with one camp of guidance suggesting=20       training convection and localized totals as high as 3-5" from a       relatively hydrologically sensitive region from southwest OK into=20       northwest/north-central AR (mainly driven by the GFS/GEFS) and the       other camp indicating higher odds for 3" exceedance farther south       into the Ark-La-Tex and southern AR (led by the ECMWF/ECENS, but       also having greater support from the CMC suite and UKMET as well).       Overall this led relatively to little change to the inherited SLGT       risk, mainly shifting the area a bit west and flattening it out to       account for the (aforementioned) less amplified upper-level trough.       There may need to be considerations for a future targeted Moderate       risk upgrade, though for this to occur more guidance would most       likely need to shift towards the northern solution (or consolidate       towards the southern solution while also getting wetter, as FFGs       indicate much less sensitive soils that would require a broader=20       area of 3"+ before meeting Moderate coverage criteria).=20              Churchill                     ...Previous Discussion...              The broad area of showers and thunderstorms are expected to shift       to the eastern portion of the Southern Plains and the Lower       Mississippi Valley. The highest amounts are expected to focus over       the AK-LA-TX region. While areal averages of 1 to 3 inches are       forecast, isolated maximums of 4+ inches will be possible. There       will be some overlap of heavy rainfall from the previous day which       will lower local FFGs. Training and back building of storms may be       possible, particularly for norther Texas and Arkansas. A Slight       Risk is in effect from northeast Texas/northern Louisiana to       western Tennessee/northwest Mississippi.              Campbell                     Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go=       v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5yD5ynSA5tjz-qy67YXeWAYNOjYRJ3vXBz0Eyg61t4aC=       Pc16uvTX3tH3rMjcjYaeYOEnc-AVuYoo4-u0ZdE6lCpAkHY$=20       Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go=       v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5yD5ynSA5tjz-qy67YXeWAYNOjYRJ3vXBz0Eyg61t4aC=       Pc16uvTX3tH3rMjcjYaeYOEnc-AVuYoo4-u0ZdE6EXMgt8o$=20       Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go=       v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5yD5ynSA5tjz-qy67YXeWAYNOjYRJ3vXBz0Eyg61t4aC=       Pc16uvTX3tH3rMjcjYaeYOEnc-AVuYoo4-u0ZdE65dALUWU$=20              =3D =3D =3D       To unsubscribe from WX-STORM and you already have a login, go to       https://lists.illinois.edu and use the "Unsubscribe" link. Otherwise email       Chris Novy at cnovy@cox.net and ask to be removed from WX-STORM.              --- SBBSecho 3.28-Linux        * Origin: capitolcityonline.net * Telnet/SSH:2022/HTTP (1:2320/105)       SEEN-BY: 4/0 19/10 88/0 90/0 93/1 104/119 105/81 106/201 114/10 120/302       SEEN-BY: 128/187 129/14 153/757 7715 154/10 30 50 110 700 218/700       SEEN-BY: 218/840 220/10 20 30 90 221/1 6 360 226/18 30 44 50 227/114       SEEN-BY: 229/110 206 300 307 317 400 426 428 470 664 700 705 266/512       SEEN-BY: 291/111 301/1 320/219 322/757 335/364 341/66 200 342/200       SEEN-BY: 396/45 460/58 633/280 712/848 880/1 900/0 102 106 902/0 19       SEEN-BY: 902/26 904/0 13 905/0 2320/0 105 304 3634/12 5019/40 5020/400       SEEN-BY: 5075/35       PATH: 2320/105 154/10 221/6 341/66 902/26 229/426           |
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