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      TZUTC: 0000       MSGID: 166843.weather@1:2320/105 2d862a09       PID: Synchronet 3.21a-Linux master/123f2d28a Jul 12 2025 GCC 12.2.0       TID: SBBSecho 3.28-Linux master/123f2d28a Jul 12 2025 GCC 12.2.0       BBSID: CAPCITY2       CHRS: ASCII 1       FORMAT: flowed       FOUS30 KWBC 200100       QPFERD              Excessive Rainfall Discussion       NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD       800 PM EST Wed Nov 19 2025              Day 1       Valid 01Z Thu Nov 20 2025 - 12Z Thu Nov 20 2025              ...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF       SOUTH-CENTRAL TEXAS, INCLUDING PORTIONS OF THE HILL COUNTRY...              ...Texas...       A targeted Moderate risk was maintained across portions of south       central TX, including portions of the Hill Country. The 18z HREF=20       and REFS show increasing probabilities of 1"/hr rainfall by=20       04z-05z, increasing further after 06z. The pattern is favorable=20       for localized areas of heavy rainfall by late tonight into the day       Thursday. PWs will be above the 90th percentile, with abundant low       level moisture advecting in from the Gulf, and mid and upper level       moisture out of the Pacific ahead of the approaching upper low.=20       Instability will be sufficient deep convection and high=20       rates...thus the extent of the flash flood risk will come down to=20       the longevity of these higher rates. Cells should initially be=20       rather quick moving of to the Northeast, however as low level flow       increases we should tend to see an increasing=20       backbuilding/training component to the convection. This should be=20       enough to result in an uptick in the flash flood risk.              Both the 18z HREF and REFS have high neighborhood probabilities of       exceeding 3" by 12z Thursday over the Moderate risk area. The most       recent 23z run of the HRRR as rainfall of 3-5" over this same=20       period. The rainfall continues into Thursday, with another uptick=20       in rainfall intensity and potential backbuilding convection by mid=20       morning into the early afternoon as large scale low level=20       convergence increases. Thus it still appears like the highest=20       chances for significant flash flooding is after 12z Thursday, when       this 2nd round convection potentially trains over areas that have=20       already received heavy rainfall and are thus saturated. In fact,=20       the REFS probabilities of exceeding the 24hr 100yr ARI are as high       as 25%, with the HREF around 10%. This is indicative of the higher       end impact potential Thursday should both rounds of convection=20       materialize over the same portion of the Hill Country.              Even though the higher probability threat is likely tomorrow, the=20       flash flood risk tonight should not be understated. While the model       consensus of upwards of 3-5" through 12z would result in some flash       flooding, there is certainly a possibility that enhanced=20       backbuilding results in more localized totals over 5" in just a=20       couple hours...which would likely be enough to produce significant=20       flash flooding over these more flood prone areas. Thus a Moderate=20       risk remains for both tonight and tomorrow across this corridor.=20       The Moderate risk areas are quite small, but in reality the axis of       most extreme rainfall and higher end impacts will likely be even=20       narrower than these risk areas. However predicting exactly where=20       this occurs is not feasible, warranting the slightly larger risk=20       areas to account for location uncertainty.              ...Southwest...       A Marginal risk was maintained for portions of AZ and NM. The       approaching upper low will result in continued showers and embedded       thunderstorms into the overnight period. The highest rainfall rate       potential is likely this evening over central AZ, but this should=20       be isolated and generally on a downward trend into the overnight.=20       The highest areal averaged rainfall (~1") will be across portions       of southwest NM, but lower instability should keep these rates=20       mostly at 0.5"/hr or less. Thus overall the flash flood threat=20       should stay isolated in nature.              Chenard                     Day 2       Valid 12Z Thu Nov 20 2025 - 12Z Fri Nov 21 2025              ...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF       SOUTH-CENTRAL TEXAS, INCLUDING PORTIONS OF THE HILL COUNTRY...              ...20z Update...              A couple of significant changes to the outlook areas for this       update.              This first is to introduce a targeted Moderate Risk upgrade for       the same areas as detailed for Day 1. This is due to increasing       likelihood for localized 5"+ storm totals beyond the 12z Thursday       Day 1/2 cut- off, which may result in numerous instances of flash       flooding in a relatively small area (with higher confidence overall       in locally significant flash flooding as opposed to the total       areal coverage). While 6-hr FFG exceedance probs from the HREF are       below 20% through the end of Day 1, they increase meaningfully to       near 60% going into Day 2 (through 18z Thu).              The second significant change was to split up the larger Slight       Risk area into two distinct areas, 1) South-Central TX and 2)       eastern OK into northern AR and southern MO. This reflects the       consensus of the latest CAM guidance which suggests a large gap in       convection across North TX during the period (with questions still       lingering regarding the eastward extent of both the South-Central       TX and Ozarks clusters of convection into the later half of Day 2).              Churchill              ..Previous Discussions..              ...Southern Plains...              The environment continues to becomes more supportive of storms       capable of producing heavy to potentially excessive rainfall as the       flow aloft backs over portions of Texas and Oklahoma and becomes       increasingly diffluent as an upper trough approaches the region. At       lower levels...an airmass with precipitable water values gets       drawn northward an converges along a surface front over parts of       Texas and Oklahoma. Excessive rainfall is possible by means of       intense rainfall rates by individual storms in regions with the       highest amount of instability (presumably ahead of the approaching       cold front) and by training of cells/multiple rounds of convection       (more of a factor where synoptic scale forcing and mesoscale       forcing act in tandem farther north). The axis of highest       precipitable water values... 1.5-1.75"... sets up over the eastern       half of Texas into southeastern-most Oklahoma and into Arkansas.       Those values are well above average for mid-November. Localized       rainfall amounts up to 2.5" in an hour with additional local totals       of 5" possible within this set up which would result in scattered       instances of flash flooding.              ...California...              Maintained a Marginal Risk area from continuity for portions of       coastal Southern California as the next area of low pressure over       the eastern North Pacific drops southward off the California coast       and brings another round of rainfall Thursday into early Friday.       Rainfall amounts at this point look to be pretty modest but the       rain will be falling on areas where antecedent conditions have       been wet for the better part of 5 or 6 days. That may result in       additional localized flooding on Thursday or Thursday night.              Bann                     Day 3       Valid 12Z Fri Nov 21 2025 - 12Z Sat Nov 22 2025              ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF       THE OHIO VALLEY AND PORTIONS OF THE SOUTHWEST US...              20Z Update: Limited changes necessary from the previous forecast due       to general run-to-run continuity. Heaviest rainfall still trending       closer to the southern Peninsular Range with an extension of       convection back over the southeast CA deserts and southwest AZ for       the MRGL over the west. Moderate to locally heavy rain possible for       the Ohio Valley. Steady forward propagation of broad QPF shield       should limit the necessity for more than the current MRGL risk. Will       assess the southern portion of the risk area closely in the coming       days as this region, extending into the Southeast CONUS will be most       coincident with a purely convective regime as instability is       prevalent within a broad, but modest theta_E depiction. This area       would promote higher rate potential, but could be a case where       forcing is not enough to activate the better thermodynamic       environment. For now, maintain relatively continuity of the MRGL       with some minor adjustments overall.              Kleebauer              ..Previous Discussions..              ...Ohio Valley...              Rain will be spreading northward and eastward from the Plains on       Day 2 into the Ohio Valley on Friday and Friday night in       association with the surface low coming out of the mid-Mississippi       Valley. Between above normal levels of moisture being transported       into the region from the south and flow aloft becoming confluent...       there is still the possibility for isolated downpours that lead to       spotty problems from run-off despite the set up becoming less       favorable with time.              ...Southwest US...              A mid- and upper-level trough with an embedded closed low will       continue to drop southward on Friday...with an embedded closed low       expected near the US border with Mexico by 00Z on Saturday. Showers       and embedded thunderstorms should be developing in the highly       diffluent flow to the east of the trough where precipitable water       values approaching an inch rotate into southern California and       western Arizona. Opted to remain at a Marginal threshold given the       timing of the best upper support but a Slight may still be needed.              Bann                     Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go=       v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6K4lPdv3xrSBM669JtbPghpQXJhUJINEortaCvhDnA3X=       7Gj6Wj5xZueYfIAhRljOtTwATYgHdNznWlXPin6lVxqRXXI$=20       Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go=       v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6K4lPdv3xrSBM669JtbPghpQXJhUJINEortaCvhDnA3X=       7Gj6Wj5xZueYfIAhRljOtTwATYgHdNznWlXPin6l5kAnZOM$=20       Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go=       v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6K4lPdv3xrSBM669JtbPghpQXJhUJINEortaCvhDnA3X=       7Gj6Wj5xZueYfIAhRljOtTwATYgHdNznWlXPin6lkdRFka4$=20              =3D =3D =3D       To unsubscribe from WX-STORM and you already have a login, go to       https://lists.illinois.edu and use the "Unsubscribe" link. 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