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|    19 Nov 25 19:44:51    |
      TZUTC: 0000       MSGID: 166837.weather@1:2320/105 2d85dff2       PID: Synchronet 3.21a-Linux master/123f2d28a Jul 12 2025 GCC 12.2.0       TID: SBBSecho 3.28-Linux master/123f2d28a Jul 12 2025 GCC 12.2.0       BBSID: CAPCITY2       CHRS: ASCII 1       FORMAT: flowed       FOUS30 KWBC 191944       QPFERD              Excessive Rainfall Discussion       NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD       244 PM EST Wed Nov 19 2025              Day 1       Valid 16Z Wed Nov 19 2025 - 12Z Thu Nov 20 2025              ...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF       SOUTH-CENTRAL TEXAS, INCLUDING PORTIONS OF THE HILL COUNTRY...              ...Special 1915z Update...              A targeted Moderate Risk was introduce in collaboration with the       San Antonio and San Angelo local offices, generally encompassing       Del Rio and points east-northeast(including much of Val Verde,       Kinney, Edwards, and Real Counties). This is where 5" exceedance       probs are maximized (12z HREF indicating probabilities near 20%       through 12z with experimental 06z REFS indicating probs as high as       60%). Given the sensitivity of the Hill Country with the potential       for 3"+/hr rainfall rates developing rapidly late tonight, it was       decided to introduce the Moderate Risk for the Day 1 period (with       greater confidence in realizing 5"+ localized totals just beyond       the Day 1 period ending at 12z Thursday). An updated Day 2 outlook       will also reflect this upgrade shortly (as the bulk of the realized       impacts of the Moderate Risk are anticipated to occur around or       just beyond 12z Thu).              Churchill                     ...16z Update...              Minimal adjustments to the ERO areas with this update, as the       inherited Slight Risk area is still positioned well within the       consensus of the 12z CAMs 3"+ QPF signal (40-70% odds per latest       40-km neighborhood 3" exceedance HREF probabilities). While this is       also the higher confidence corridor for localized 5"+ amounts (per       both the 12z HREF PMM and 10-20% probs for 5" exceedance), there       are indications of a secondary training corridor by some of the       CAMs (mainly the ARW and ARW2) across portions of North TX into the       ArkLaTex (20-30% and 5-15% for 3" and 5" exceedance, respectively).       While this area remains more of a conditional flash flood threat       (dependent on west-to-east training convection along the quasi-       stationary boundary with weak forcing), the Marginal Risk was       expanded more into the ArkLaTex to account for the latest QPF       spread in the 12z guidance (with the bulk of the QPF still expected       late in the period for both regions).              Maintained the Marginal Risk elsewhere (Southwest U.S.) where       longer duration rainfall (with instability being the main limiting       factor for convection and higher rainfall rates) could result in       localized flood impacts for sensitive areas.              Churchill              ...Previous Discussion...              A large mid/upper trough over the southwestern U.S. will take on a       negative tilt while moving slowly eastward toward the southern       Rockies through 12Z Thursday. As this occurs, abundant Gulf       moisture will be drawn northwestward across much of central and       southeastern Texas. Low-level trajectories indicating upslope into       higher terrain of northern Mexican provinces and areas of 1000-1500       J/kg SBCAPE are supportive of scattered thunderstorms developing       over northern Coahuila and the general vicinity of Del Rio/Eagle       Pass. CAMs depict a concerning signal for training in this region       as cells both 1) migrate northeastward beneath southwesterly       steering flow aloft while 2) redeveloping upstream closer to higher       terrain. A narrow corridor of 1-3 inch rainfall totals could       develop in these areas. Ultimately, local convective evolution will       determine the degree of training and length of heavier rain rates       in this area. Slight Risk and attendant probabilities are       maintained for this forecast as there is some lingering uncertainty       regarding specific location of this axis of heavier rain. However,       PW values approaching 1.5 and slow right-moving motions with any       cells that can acquire mature cold pools/updraft rotation may       force a locally significant flash flood threat occurring during the       overnight and early morning Thursday. Convective/rainfall trends       will be monitored for any enhanced training that would necessitate       a Moderate Risk upgrade.              Farther northeast, models depict deep convection in a more       scattered fashion toward Dallas/Fort Worth and into northeast Texas       (and perhaps western Arkansas). While thermodynamic profiles will       gradually become more supportive of heavy rainfall, weak forcing       (with the mid/upper wave well west of the region), weak/non-       existent low-level convergence, and subtle ridging aloft just east       of the region casts some doubt on convective coverage and       resultant flash flood risk. A Marginal Risk remains in place for       locally training storms, although this risk appears to be quite       conditional.              Across Arizona and New Mexico, deep southerly flow aloft will allow       for scattered shower and thunderstorm activity to drift northward       through much of the day. An uptick in convective coverage is       expected during peak heating hours, with isolated/localized flash       flood potential existing across any low-lying, sensitive, and/or       urban areas. Heavy rainfall (exceeding 1 inch) is expected to occur       on a relatively localized basis. Later in the forecast period       (between 00Z-12Z Thursday), models depict potential for heavier       rainfall to develop in a few locales across southern New Mexico       near several active burn scars. Isolated flash flooding could       occur near these burn scars.              Cook                     Day 2       Valid 12Z Thu Nov 20 2025 - 12Z Fri Nov 21 2025              ...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF       SOUTH-CENTRAL TEXAS, INCLUDING PORTIONS OF THE HILL COUNTRY...              ...20z Update...              A couple of significant changes to the outlook areas for this       update.              This first is to introduce a targeted Moderate Risk upgrade for=20       the same areas as detailed for Day 1. This is due to increasing=20       likelihood for localized 5"+ storm totals beyond the 12z Thursday=20       Day 1/2 cut- off, which may result in numerous instances of flash=20       flooding in a relatively small area (with higher confidence overall       in locally significant flash flooding as opposed to the total=20       areal coverage). While 6-hr FFG exceedance probs from the HREF are=20       below 20% through the end of Day 1, they increase meaningfully to=20       near 60% going into Day 2 (through 18z Thu).=20              The second significant change was to split up the larger Slight       Risk area into two distinct areas, 1) South-Central TX and 2)       eastern OK into northern AR and southern MO. This reflects the       consensus of the latest CAM guidance which suggests a large gap in       convection across North TX during the period (with questions still       lingering regarding the eastward extent of both the South-Central       TX and Ozarks clusters of convection into the later half of Day 2).=20              Churchill=20              ..Previous Discussions..              ...Southern Plains...              The environment continues to becomes more supportive of storms       capable of producing heavy to potentially excessive rainfall as the       flow aloft backs over portions of Texas and Oklahoma and becomes       increasingly diffluent as an upper trough approaches the region. At       lower levels...an airmass with precipitable water values gets       drawn northward an converges along a surface front over parts of       Texas and Oklahoma. Excessive rainfall is possible by means of       intense rainfall rates by individual storms in regions with the       highest amount of instability (presumably ahead of the approaching       cold front) and by training of cells/multiple rounds of convection       (more of a factor where synoptic scale forcing and mesoscale       forcing act in tandem farther north). The axis of highest       precipitable water values... 1.5-1.75"... sets up over the eastern       half of Texas into southeastern-most Oklahoma and into Arkansas.       Those values are well above average for mid-November. Localized       rainfall amounts up to 2.5" in an hour with additional local totals       of 5" possible within this set up which would result in scattered       instances of flash flooding.              ...California...              Maintained a Marginal Risk area from continuity for portions of       coastal Southern California as the next area of low pressure over       the eastern North Pacific drops southward off the California coast       and brings another round of rainfall Thursday into early Friday.       Rainfall amounts at this point look to be pretty modest but the       rain will be falling on areas where antecedent conditions have       been wet for the better part of 5 or 6 days. That may result in       additional localized flooding on Thursday or Thursday night.              Bann                     Day 3       Valid 12Z Fri Nov 21 2025 - 12Z Sat Nov 22 2025              ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF       THE OHIO VALLEY AND PORTIONS OF THE SOUTHWEST US...              20Z Update: Limited changes necessary from the previous forecast due=20       to general run-to-run continuity. Heaviest rainfall still trending=20       closer to the southern Peninsular Range with an extension of=20       convection back over the southeast CA deserts and southwest AZ for=20       the MRGL over the west. Moderate to locally heavy rain possible for=20       the Ohio Valley. Steady forward propagation of broad QPF shield=20       should limit the necessity for more than the current MRGL risk. Will=20       assess the southern portion of the risk area closely in the coming=20       days as this region, extending into the Southeast CONUS will be most=20       coincident with a purely convective regime as instability is=20       prevalent within a broad, but modest theta_E depiction. This area=20       would promote higher rate potential, but could be a case where=20       forcing is not enough to activate the better thermodynamic=20       environment. For now, maintain relatively continuity of the MRGL=20       with some minor adjustments overall.=20=20              Kleebauer              ..Previous Discussions..              ...Ohio Valley...              Rain will be spreading northward and eastward from the Plains on       Day 2 into the Ohio Valley on Friday and Friday night in       association with the surface low coming out of the mid-Mississippi       Valley. Between above normal levels of moisture being transported       into the region from the south and flow aloft becoming confluent...       there is still the possibility for isolated downpours that lead to       spotty problems from run-off despite the set up becoming less       favorable with time.              ...Southwest US...              A mid- and upper-level trough with an embedded closed low will       continue to drop southward on Friday...with an embedded closed low       expected near the US border with Mexico by 00Z on Saturday. Showers       and embedded thunderstorms should be developing in the highly       diffluent flow to the east of the trough where precipitable water       values approaching an inch rotate into southern California and       western Arizona. Opted to remain at a Marginal threshold given the       timing of the best upper support but a Slight may still be needed.              Bann                     Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go=       v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!4d5j5wVsMKW1-KyosgZyD43l88P3PsWnUMRt1zgclFC0=       _AsbDUaSGUAJFJxmJ-pM0j1uNnB10XXj4TmSmTfL4AY6Yfg$=20       Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go=       v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!4d5j5wVsMKW1-KyosgZyD43l88P3PsWnUMRt1zgclFC0=       _AsbDUaSGUAJFJxmJ-pM0j1uNnB10XXj4TmSmTfLo4HehAk$=20       Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go=       v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!4d5j5wVsMKW1-KyosgZyD43l88P3PsWnUMRt1zgclFC0=       _AsbDUaSGUAJFJxmJ-pM0j1uNnB10XXj4TmSmTfLT3ccbKE$=20              =3D =3D =3D       To unsubscribe from WX-STORM and you already have a login, go to       https://lists.illinois.edu and use the "Unsubscribe" link. 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